Friday, July 24, 2015

BSNYC Friday Fun Quiz!

As most of us know, various activists and smuggies have been pushing to stop calling car crashes "accidents"--and for good reason, since as cyclists we're all to aware of how abjectly thoughtless it is to automatically dismiss road carnage as just a little "oopsie."  You'd think only the most ornery tabloid troglodytes would object to using more objective language when people are hurt or killed, but you'd be wrong.  You can also add pretentious Slate writers to that list, and here's one who doesn't like it just because it gives her an excuse to wave her degree around:

But the word can also simply describe “a happening that occurs unintentionally.” That seems to be the obvious spirit in which most traffic reports use accident today, and why not? Our justice system distinguishes between negligence and criminal intent for good reason. 

Come on.  Is it really all so "obvious?"  Police and media referring to collisions in which people are maimed or killed as "accidents" before the investigation begins--if they even bother to investigate it at all--isn't problematic to you?  I'm sure plenty of abusers don't mean to kill their partners, either--they just want to "discipline" them.  So maybe we should start calling these incidents "Domestic Violence Accidents."  And why call aviation disasters "Plane Crashes?"  More often than not the pilot didn't mean it, right?  So let's start calling them "Plane Accidents!"  Of course, we already do use the phrase "Accidental Shooting," but that's only because the only thing Americans are dumber about than cars is guns, and we'll bend over backwards linguistically to make sure nothing ever threatens our unrestricted access to either.  "Accidental Shooting?"  It's a fucking gun!  What else do they expect it's gonna do!?!

She continues:

You could even assert that baked into the prevalence of accident is the fundamentally American idea of “innocent until proven guilty.” Ascribing bloodthirsty motives to a careless motorist feels as problematic as suggesting that she bears no responsibility for the pain she’s sown.

No, "baked into the prevalence of accident" is that when you're behind the wheel you're automatically shielded from any consequences for your actions, regardless of whether you were negligent or downright antagonistic.  Why automatically rule out "bloodthirsty motives?"  Holy crap!  All too often motorists commit crimes behind the wheel and are never charged for them--if you've never seen or experienced a motorist using his or her car as a weapon then please invite me into your bubble sometime so I can meet your pet unicorn who farts rainbows.

But yes, we can't assume every automobile collision is the result of depraved bloodlust.  I mean, sure, probably at least half of them are, but not all of them.  That's precisely why we should be using a neutral, objective word like "crash."  There's no blame or absolution inherent in the word.  It is what it is.  So how could you possibly be opposed to that?

Well, you can be opposed to it if you're a pretentious bloviator who's the product of an overpriced education:

In classical philosophy, accidents are the opposite of occurrences that “happen without a cause.” In fact, they are precisely events that are contingent upon other events, rather than expressions of telos or inner nature. From that perspective, accident seems like the perfect word for a mishap that unfolds not necessarily from a person’s core being or values, but from his stupid lapse in judgment. (At the extreme edge of this claim lies drunk driving, which represents a choice and perhaps a deeper pathology.) You forgot to turn on your lights. No one repaired the pothole. These qualify as blameworthy errors with foreseeable consequences—exactly the sort of thing that might cause an accident.

Oh please.

Firstly, if there were "blameworthy errors with forseeable consequences," how the hell is that an accident?!?

Secondly, starting your argument with "In classical philosophy..." is the rhetorical equivalent of starting your story with "This one time at band camp..."  It means you're on a collision course (sorry, "accident course") with a non-sequitor.  But sure, by all means, let's not allow our language to change or evolve because you took a course on Aristotelianism in college.

The fact is that it's important to update our language and discard certain words from time to time (or at least change when and how we use them) in order to reflect what we've learned and to expunge the retrograde attitudes some words come to embody after awhile.  Saying we shouldn't stop calling car crashes "accidents" because of classical philosophy is like saying we shouldn't stop using racial slurs because they're simply rooted in the Latin word for "black."  Of course, this is not to say we should banish the word "accident" from our language--obviously there are about a million circumstances in which it's totally appropriate--but you've got to admit it's pretty stupid for law enforcement and the media to use the same word for a deadly crash that we use for when someone takes a dump in their pants.

You know, classical philosophers like Aristotle had some twisted views on women too, but fortunately we moved past those.  Time to drop the faux intellectual act and do the same thing with people who run other people down with their cars.

Thank you, thank you.

Please allow applause to play for remainder of post.

Speaking of accidents...OOPSIE!

BOISE, Idaho (KBOI) -- An individual has confessed to starting the Hull fire that broke out Wednesday.

Carrie Bilbao, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Land Management in Boise, said the fire was caused by a mountain biker who burned toilet paper after making a restroom stop. 

Nicely done.

By the way, something to keep in mind:

The agency said the fire could've been avoided by burying human waste, not burning toilet paper in dry grass and on public lands and lastly, if you pack it in, make sure to pack it out.

I am a resolute urbanite who goes to great lengths to make sure I'm never beyond riding distance of a clean toilet, but even I could have figured that one out.

And now, I'm pleased to present you with a quiz.  As always, study the item, think, and click on your answer.  If you're right great, and if you're wrong you'll see how drivers never have bloodthirsty motives.

Thanks very much for reading, ride safe, and remember: accidents are for pants.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

1) What are these NYPD officers doing?

--Recovering a stolen bicycle
--Photographing the bicycle of a salmon who hit a pedestrian and cracked his head open, presumably so they can charge him before he gets out of the hospital or dies
--Ticketing the bicycle for being upside down
--Ticketing the fire hydrant for riding on the sidewalk

2) The Canadian equivalent of driving your car into a Dunkin' Donuts is:

--Driving your car into a Tim Hortons
--Driving your Zamboni into a Tim Hortons
--Launching a curling stone through the front window of a Loblaws
--Apologizing for driving your car into a Dunkin' Donuts

3) The $13,499 Look 795 comes with new "Neck Brace" headset technology, which means you can no longer turn the bars.


4) New technology from Land Rover will:

--Alert you to when you're about to drive into the garage with your bike on the roof rack
--Allow you to drive the vehicle remotely with your smartphone while you're standing outside of it for some reason
--Activate a highly sophisticated "Crash Anglicisation" feature in the event of an imminent collision that will replace the word "accident" with "cock-up"
--Warn fellow road users that you're a douchebag

(Louis XVI really should have been wearing a helme(n)t)

5) So helme(n)ts protect against neck impalement somehow.


(Seattle's most ticketed rider.)

6) Police officers who enforce helme(n)t laws are child molesters.


7) Why is this bike getting a colonoscopy?

--They're checking for motors
--They're checking for cracks
--They're checking for hidden drugs
--The goddamn press-fit bottom bracket won't shut up!!!

***Special Bonus Question WITH PRIZE, Sponsored by Classic Cycle!***

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Prize has been claimed!

Fill in the blank: "Dick _____"



Spokey said...

podi yeller

Unknown said...

Note 6. (Paragraph 44) Some of the symptoms listed are similar to those shown by caged animals.
To explain how these symptoms arise from deprivation with respect to the power process:
Common-sense understanding of human nature tells one that lack of goals whose attainment requires effort leads to boredom and that boredom, long continued, often leads eventually to depression. Failure to attain goals leads to frustration and lowering of self-esteem. Frustration leads to anger, anger to aggression, often in the form of spouse or child abuse. It has been shown that long-continued frustration commonly leads to depression and that depression tends to cause guilt, sleep disorders, eating disorders and bad feelings about oneself. Those who are tending toward depression seek pleasure as an antidote; hence insatiable hedonism and excessive sex, with perversions as a means of getting new kicks. Boredom too tends to cause excessive pleasure-seeking since, lacking other goals, people often use pleasure as a goal. See accompanying diagram.
The foregoing is a simplification. Reality is more complex, and of course, deprivation with respect to the power process is not the ONLY cause of the symptoms described.
By the way, when we mention depression we do not necessarily mean depression that is severe enough to be treated by a psychiatrist. Often only mild forms of depression are involved. And when we speak of goals we do not necessarily mean long-term, thought-out goals. For many or most people through much of human history, the goals of a hand-to-mouth existence (merely providing oneself and one’s family with food from day to day) have been quite sufficient.

JLRB said...

top accidental

JLRB said...

Spokey - passing ted K's bot by a bushy nose hair at the line, whilest I get left with sloppy thirds ...

JLRB said...

Ted K explains CJ and Tinder

Those who are tending toward depression seek pleasure as an antidote; hence insatiable hedonism and excessive sex, with perversions as a means of getting new kicks.

Anonymous said...

upper class twits

wishiwasmerckx said...

Top ten. Unfair posting during the closing moments of the TdF stage.

Pathetic Old Cyclist said...

Top Ten..screw working

Serial Retrogrouch said...

nine before 10

wishiwasmerckx said...

My favorite part about roadriding is sucking wheel. Nothing gets me there, like being in the zone, inches from a sweaty man's asscrack in spando.

Spokey said...

well yeah i got yeller on the coveted friday quiz day


i'm sorry to report my grade was a miserable 57%. mama's gonna whup my ass when she sees this report card.

Pathetic Old Cyclist said...

Was potty fire MTB pooper wearing a helment????

wishiwasmerckx said...

CJ was back only one day before he took to posting under my name.

Keep it classy, you human hunk of dog poop.

wishiwasmerckx said...

As for the Look 795, every villain knows that a getaway bike requires impeccable styling and unconscionable cost...

ChamoisJuice said...

Never gets old

Headed upstate to Beacon. Still holding out for a decent mtb ride.

JLRB said...

Americans love guns? Yep - and gun manufacturers have been making more of them than ever under Obama - fear mongering works.

PotbellyJoe said...

I used to burn used toilet paper too, but only because I like the smell. As for burning down the forest with carelessness, it was only an accident. Oopsie....

To quote Stroke9,

"This is the way it should be
I've never had the propensity to work, breed and die
I prefer to spend mine on the fly
The be'ers got to be and the flee'ers got to flee
But as for me, well...don't worry about me"

Anonymous said...

Thank you for NOT providing a link for "someone takes a dump in their pants."
'Cause I know I would have clicked it...

BikeSnobNYC said...


Who brings a mountain bike on a trip to New York? Do you bring your Mad fold-ins to the Louvre too?

--Wildcat Etc.

Giacomo Caprotti said...

Hope the charges on the douche-bag "irate" driver stick...but I guess he was pretty stupid...if he had just stayed in his car and run them over he would have been let off the hook.

CJ's Mom said...

CJ is clearly not smart enough to operate a Mad Fold-In or to pronounce "Louvre" or to find France on a map. Lord know he can't even find his own penis - it's much to small to actually find, but that doesn't mean he doesn't try. It's a wonder he even has enough intelligence to maintain normal bodily functions (although he still has to wear diapers because he can't seem to learn to stop shitting himself - thus the moniker). I don't know how I ever spawned such a waste of oxygen.

dnk said...

I'm hoping Spokey has beat TedK to claim the classic bike prize.

McFly said...

It smells like a terd/tird covered in burnt hair.

JM said...

Thanks for calling out Slate. I saw that piece, started to read it and quickly realized it was their normal drivel, much like the rest of the drivel they produce.

dop said...

I think Chris Sprowls must be WRCM's lost twin

ShammyJews said...

CJ is an imposter I am the real thing. You can tell, I am not quite the douchebag he is.

Roille Figners said...

In classical philosophy, accidents are the opposite of occurrences that “happen without a cause.” In fact, they are precisely events that are contingent upon other events, rather than expressions of telos or in...

I don't mind the highfalutin' prose but I quit reading ASAP after encountering a Greek word. Not because it's hard, but because fuck you Katy Waldman.

Roille Figners said...


P. Bateman said...

i bet that damn ted K got the prize. he's always tearing up the mountains for the stage win.

has anyone checked his posts for a motor?

Roille Figners said...

(not really tag-team but I got caught up in announcer voice)

Dave said...

If only I could see the accompanying diagram to Note 6, Paragraph 44. I'm sure it would make the simplistic gibberish dazzlingly clear in an instant. And I might pass my class on Murderous Recluse Behavior.

"Reality is more complex..." Really? Do ya think?

trama said...

I don't need no stinkin' Land Rover to be a douchebag

Regarding the $14K aerobike: I always knew my 1986 Nashbar mtb with U-Brakes was cutting edge. It also had the one-piece bar/stem combo dealio, known as "bullmoose". Very high-tech.

JLRB said...

Open Table just sent me this:

"Hot weather. Cold soup.
When temps soar, all we want is a cool order. Enter gazpacho, this summer's trending dish according to our diner reviews—the best of the season's tomatoes, cucumbers, and peppers. It's all anyone wants in the dog days of summer."

Dooth said...

I fart rainbows too!
Too smelly to describe.

Arnold Ziffel said...

Even a bling pig can find a turd

Be tolerant of all...but lactose said...

When I fart it cause people to see rainbows, so it's kind of the same thing...

arnold ziffel said...

blind...I tried to type blind

Endo-King said...

Leave it to the Italians, to bring us to a different level . . .

Jeb said...

Why I get to read me some CJ an' some Ted K at th' same place! I jus' wish them feller's would start usin' smaller words that don't make my head hurt.

Roille Figners said...

JLRB - you know I love it. Every time the weather gets hot, which AFAIK is every year, some a-hole, working at whatever PR agency feeds so-called journalists their story ideas, is all "Hey remember gazpacho? It's the perfect food for all of you who were all like, Gee I wish I could eat soup but it's hot out darn :("

Yeah I was taken in by your nifty gazpacho idea, similar to other things that fool young people (e.g. music, weddings) and I found that it sucked.

You know what else I just thought of: ANY soup can be eaten cold. Yeah sure, the more fats & oils are in it, the grosser the experience will be, but hey maybe that means you're eating greazy soup that's bad for you. But on the other hand that's where all the FLAVA is.


Comment deleted said...

Was irate Pittsburgh driver's victim wearing a helment? Well, WAS SHE?

Anonymous said...

the idea that changing the name of car accidents to crashes is going to have any meaningful impact to reducing their occurrence is stupid.
stronger laws that appropriately punish reckless and careless drivers will though. The biggest problem is that people, by nature, are generally selfish and careless and that is not going to change.

cold soup said...


BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 1:46pm,

You could say the same thing about taking the confederate flag down...

And you'd be wrong there too.

--Wildcat Etc.

Endo-King said...

As for the pretentious degree-waving dickhead Slate writer, who says there is a ". . . fundamentally American idea of 'innocent until proven guilty'"

Sorry, Sweets, but there ain't none. Not in Your Land, not in My Land. Not in the US. Please review the Articles of Confederation, Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and all settled case law from the Supremes on down ever since then, and. . . you . . . will NOT EVER . . . find the phrase 'innocent until proven guilty.'

Dick Cavett got me hip to that.

Anonymous said...

snob when are you dropping your next book? Is it going to be about the U.S. automobile industrial complex and its impact on societal behavior?

Anonymous said...


taking the confederate flag down? I completely miss the analogy. why not child slavery or bill cosby. Come on dude you're better than that.

anon 1:46

Roille Figners said...

Yeah it's more like people imitate or conform to whatever they see around them as a social norm or acceptable behavior. This is an evolutionarily advantageous trait and you can say it for sure without lapsing into simplistic generalizations of good & bad.

Please prove you're not a robot. Select all the images with GAZPACHO.


P. Bateman said...

oddly enough i recently ordered the old GA state flag tag. wish i could paint my bike like the general lee

Roille Figners said...

The Confederate flag is a fine example because it's a symbol that if people keep seeing it, they'll keep thinking "oh OK that's normal then."

Why not child slavery WHAT? Why not child slavery instead of gazpacho? FUCK YES, I'M WITH YOU

P. Bateman said...

why have children if you dont put them to work? i thought that was sort of their intended purpose - field hands. otherwise, i'd rather have a boat.

which brings to mind some dead baby jokes...

Bob. that's the one that floats.

JLRB said...

Roile - I read that e-mail from Open Table and thought - this might just set Roilie Figners off - ahh - I love it when life is predictable

And of course it set you off with humor - Weddings - too funny

JLRB said...

P.Batemen - I think you have that wrong - Bob is the one with no arms or legs - or maybe that was Matt

dop said...

The guy with a hundred rabbits was Warren.

JLRB said...

Bill Cosby vs gazpacho - quaalude soup?

Rod said...

I make a good living holding up curtains.

flame_fanning said...

So, what would be the equivalent term for unintentionally discharging a weapon and having it hit someone? A gun crash? We need a different word than accident.

Eileen said...

I was born with one leg shorter than the other

Frank & Patty said...

We like to lie out on the grill

Anonymous said...

Let's call them "automobile holocausts" and we can call perpetrators "Nazis". We can make them walk the town square nude while people hurl insults and bodily fluids at them. No, that would be too much like the tour de france.

Yours is a dirty god.

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 1:46pm,

You missed the analogy? You missed everything:

You said:

the idea that changing the name of car accidents to crashes is going to have any meaningful impact to reducing their occurrence is stupid.

The reason we should call car crashes what they are (that's "CRASHES") instead of what they sometimes are ("ACCIDENTS") is that we should not be simply assuming every time a driver kills somebody it was just an innocent "oopsie." Yes, people will keep crashing into each other, but maybe instead of dismissing it as inevitable we'll treat it as something preventable.

As for the confederate flag analogy, they are comparable because they both represent dumb-ass thinking, and the act of retiring them is itself thought-provoking and an acknowledgement that we need to look at the way we think and behave. So saying "We should just keep calling them accidents, what's the diff?" is like saying, "Leave the racist flag up there, what's the diff?"

--Wildcat Rock Machine

BikeSnobNYC said...


I dunno, "shooting" explains it pretty well.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

Anonymous said...

"burned toilet paper after making a restroom stop"....well there was no restroom...just another euphemism like "car accident" for running strangers down in cold blood....."car violence" would probably be the most accurate general term, though i would prefer "car atrocity" or "car genocide".

haha, well the 1st challenge was select all images of cars, and there were no dead people..

McFly said...

I was just cleaning it and it went off.

Knüt Fredriksson said...

Wow, both a post and a quiz! Lucky day!

So, are you saying that I should stop trying to burn horses for pooping on the trail, and I should bury them instead?

Russell said...

My home is a pile of leaves.

Flyover BC Ph.D. said...

Allow me to edit and then comment

"Accidents are events that are contingent upon other events, rather than expressions of telos (goal directed behavior) or from one's inner nature. ...From this perspective, accidents unfold not necessarily (but maybe) from a person’s core being or values, but from his stupid lapse in judgment".

Seems to me that the subtext is

"He (being Male) is stupid and, therefore, has lapses in judgement",

which implies, ironically, the male's core being and the author's core values.

Anonymous said...

Beacon, upstate. That's a good one. Riding is alright. Nice view at the top, but we've got better gnar than that in the HV.

Anonymous said...


my point was that changing "accident" to "crash" would have a negligible impact peoples bad driving behaviors compared to changing the laws and enforcing them to make drivers more accountable. I can't breath.

Anonymous said...

vsk said ...

Grampa in his MTA going your way subway motorman training must have heard the phrase, "Accidents don't happen, they're caused". Trolley and Subway Motorman 1943 - 1976.

I vote for the use of "COLLISION". In ship parlance (I operate 9 tons of twin engined flybridge goodness and read a lot of GCaptain) they have the term "Allision". Like two tankers allided in the Houston Ship Channel and left 40 foot gashes on each other's hull. No criminality suspected**

** CatalinasMyBayDotHTML...or whatever = Just Kidding ... with folks waving on the sailboat. They never say that ...

Confedrit flag removal - now you won't know who the racists are. YYeee Haaa!

Guns? I have no desire to be the noble victim. Or if I can't have them in NYC, better make sure everyone else can't have them as well. Need to perform a 10 million person simultaneous stop and frisk. Gonna need 30 million cops for that based on yesterday's post.

Is there anything I missed?

Oh, I have a 1950s Dick Power track bike that belonged to Lynn Adams US champ lady racer from the 50s/60s. Airlite hubs, Chater Lea inch pitch crank, Regina Chain, TDC headset, tiny stem, Mansfield Eclipse saddle, etc. It is about a 47-48cm and does not look like that Flying Gate looking frame in the picture. Actually I think I have seen that frame up close not sure. Built for a strong sprinter with the extra bracing.

OK whatd I miss?

Global Warming? Don't fuck with my atmosphere, it's nice out right now.


Serial Retrogrouch said...

...hey, didn't dick leaky ride a dick power bike?

Roille Figners said...

Even though I agree w/Snobkinz about terminology and might die by "accident" someday, I still LOL'd the loudest at "automobile holocausts." Laugh at death, it's funny shit.

Spokey said...

McFly said...

I was just cleaning it and it went off.

and he ain't talkin' about his gun. or perhaps his euphemism gun.

Louis Diat said...

In the summer of 1917, when I had been at the Ritz seven years, I reflected upon the potato and leek soup of my childhood which my mother and grandmother used to make. I recalled how during the summer my older brother and I used to cool it off by pouring in cold milk and how delicious it was. I resolved to make something of the sort for the patrons of the Ritz

Historian said...

I'm not sure that the Confederate battle flag is racist. It certainly represents State rights.

March 4, 1861 Lincoln stated in his First Inaugural Address:

“The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the government (four Federal tax collection forts), and to collect the duties and imposts (import tax); but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere.” (Paragraph 21)

“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” (Paragraph 4)

“I understand a proposed (Corwin) Amendment to the Constitution has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. Holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.” (Paragraph 32)

Sooo, it sounds like Lincoln said he would go to war to collect taxes and the infrastructure necessary to do so, but he had no inclination to challenge slavery.

Debating Sen. Stephen Douglas, Lincoln said, “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes nor of qualifying them to hold office nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races, which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.”

Sure sounds racist. Oh, I forgot, he was a republican.

Walter Williams recenlty wrote

"The Emancipation Proclamation was not a universal declaration. It specifically detailed where slaves were to be freed: only in those states “in rebellion against the United States.” Slaves remained slaves in states not in rebellion – such as Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware and Missouri. The hypocrisy of the Emancipation Proclamation came in for heavy criticism. Lincoln’s own secretary of state, William Seward, sarcastically said, “We show our sympathy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free.”

Neal said...

I have no feet

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 2:45pm,

Calling shit what it is instead of an "accident" makes drivers MORE ACCOUNTABLE.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

JLRB said...

Historian - So the KKK is a state's rights supporting organization?

They are the supporters of the Confederate Flag today (whatever your history book may say) and they are a hate group based on racism.

Anonymous said...

"I am a resolute urbanite", wrote Snobby.

Tread carefully, friend, that's perilously close to being an "urbanist" which is the new hipster.

Your commitment to responsible toileting habits is commendable, though.

flame_fanning said...


I could easily go with stupidity-related shooting.

But, the new normal in media is nothing is stupid. Guns everywhere, as free and almost as easy to get as beer? Nothing stupid or dangerous about that.

Anonymous said...


sorry to belabor the point but accident and crash are not that different and in conversation people generally use them interchangeably anyway. Going with automobile holocaust as is suggested above might do the trick however. "A NYC cabbie committed an automobile holocaust when he turned into a pedestrian who has the right of way, killing him the in process. No charges have been filed."

anon 2:45

BikeSnobNYC said...


"This one time at band camp..."

--Wildcat Rock Machine

McFly said...

What if you "accidentally" get a woman preggo? Is that now Involuntary Vagina-slaughter?

(I had to hyphenate or it would have read vagina's laughter)

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 2:04pm,

It's not about what people say in conversation, it's about what police and the media say. When "officially" investigating or reporting this stuff it's absurd to call them "accidents," especially before the investigation is finished (or even started), which is often what happens.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

wishiwasmerckx said...

Confucius say: The first step on the path to truth is to call things by their real name.

P. Bateman said...

i've never heard a vagina laugh, but they do occasionally fart.

Historian said...

One time at band camp, there was this youngrepublican ....

KKK was at its highest popularity during the 1920s in Indiana and Ohio. Don't know if they flew the southern cross.

It's all ironic, isn't it.

Serial Retrogrouch said...

...there's something silly in not realizing that language has power. words pack meaning... they shape thought... (e.g. corporations are people). amazes me that someone who seems intelligent enough like anon 1:46pm to string together perfectly cohesive sentences cannot understand how calling it crashes instead of accidents makes no difference at all in the way people will perceive these incidents, and how it can then shape policy down the road.

...maybe we mix up our language when we talk about crashes because the media uses accident so often, yet we know it to be something else... you smell conspiracy theories? perhaps it's just burnt turd

P. Bateman said...

i think for a lot of folks that flag is more of a "dont tread on me" symbol. just an indicator that i'm armed, probably drunk, rowdy and don't really want you on my property. that's really about all there is to it for most.

Serial Retrogrouch said... addition, did you know that even if you intentionally kill someone with your vehicle, and you are caught, the police still write down the report on a piece of paper with the heading: Police Accident Report?

Flyover BC said...

Unicorns shyte cupcakes too, don't cha know?

Says my sis-in-law

P. Bateman said...

and thank you very little certain online retailer of bike parts. so much for 48 hour shipping.

Historian said...

P.Bateman wins the cigar for the correct answer on the battle flag.

Jeff S said...

Did anyone notice that Aristotle looks a bit like our own Snobbie?

Roille Figners said...

I always smell them. (Turds and conspiracies.) A huge chunk of the media's advertising revenue comes from the auto industry.

Oh yeah and the day Massachusetts raises a Confederate flag on their state capitol is the day you can say it's about states' rights.

Debra Harry said...

Accidents Never Happen

Precognition in my ear.

JLRB said...

Historian -

While you are at bandcamp ask the young republican wtf the history of the KKK in eh 1920's has to do with today's reality - deflecting is a weak minded tactic.

Look up film from the little KKK meeting in South Carolina this week to support that lovely flag you love so much - associate yourself with those small minded morons all you want.

and so forth said...


P. Bateman said...

how many people showed up for that? couple hundred meth heads? so what.

ban bow ties in that case.

dop said...

That's not's Chris Sprowls

bad boy of the north said...

100 at least....105 at most.

crosspalms said...

I like to fly the confederate flag to honor my ancestors who owned people and whipped them. Of course, none of us do that today, so today's flag just says "racism, fuck yeah."

BikeSnobNYC said...

Historian and P. Bateman,

Denying what that flag means to many people is disingenuous and stupid.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

Spokey said...

i'm still confused but

ted did post so i think bad boy gets the century

Spokey said...


allowing everyone to make up their own definitions is also stupid

communication is / should be about accurately conveying thought.

BamaPhred said...

Shall I enter the rarified atmosphere of a Bardish debate on the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia? My Confederate genealogy can't be debated, on both sides of my family, nor my wife's. We even graduated from schools where the entire Rebel thing was embraced. It's all gone now. Why? Because total fuckwits like every violent, or stupid, or red nekkie, or hate, or racist organization co-opted the symbols for their use. No, I'm not proud to fly the stars and bars anymore, and really, not a fan of the other original flag of racism either. Now back to important things like cycling and oral sex.

JLRB said...

Bateboy (& Historian) - So you associate yourself with the flag, but not with the KKK because they are methheads? Or is it just the methhead KKK members you aren't down with? more deflection.

In more recent history, here is what your Florida Republican Governor has to say about your innocent lawn sign flag:

Nearly two weeks after canceling a campaign event scheduled the morning after the deadly attack on a South Carolina church, Jeb Bush on Monday called the Confederate battle flag a “racist” symbol, reflecting the new Republican normal in a Southern primary state vastly altered by the racially motivated killings.

The flag was one of “the symbols that have divided the South in many ways, the symbols that were used in most recent modern history, perhaps not at the beginning of the time, but the symbols were racist,” Mr. Bush told an interracial crowd of about 200 people at a $300 million pharmaceuticals facility here.

“And if you are trying to lean forward rather than live in the past, you are trying to eliminate the barriers that create disagreements, and so I did,” he said, explaining his decision as the governor of Florida to move the Confederate flag from the Capitol grounds to a museum."

Try to say its just a stay off my lawn sign all you want - it's a symbol of racism to anyone who honestly thinks about it.

P. Bateman said...

these southern style mud flaps just aren't going to look right

BikeSnobNYC said...


If you want to accurately convey thought then charged symbols and flags are just about the worst way to do it.

Sure, I can walk around town displaying a swastika and tell people who give me a hard time that it's just a Hindu symbol, and of course I'd be right, but I'd also be a schmuck. What a symbol means to a group of people at a given time and place is what that symbol means, not the other way around.

If you want to accurately convey thought, use your words. If you want to push buttons, use a symbol.

This is why symbols--and words--are constantly changing and will always do so.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

Nice Fryday post and quiz. And good commentary but like someone mentioned not enough cycling and oral sex. And boobs.

Spokey said...


frankly i don't give a rat's ass whether the flag is banned or not. taking it down might allow society to move on to more important topics. but i doubt it.

however, the idea some people who are 'offended' by something should dictate such a response as we're seeing is somewhat troubling.

for example, there sure are a bunch of people who are offended by people who ride bicycles on the road. should we ban road cycling so that we don't offend them? maybe ban pedestrians while we're at it?

banning stuff because someone gets offended is just a very very bad idea. it's been done before and never seems to come out very well.

Spokey said...

If you want to accurately convey thought, use your words. If you want to push buttons, use a symbol.

ok, i'll buy that

but i do say it's one thing to walk around like a schmuck and another to have you banned.

Spokey said...

and just for RCT

here is a Blue-Footed Booby

Serial Retrogrouch said...

...bama and rct...

here are your boobs and bicycles for the day... check photo #29... sorry, no oral sex (i mean in the pic... knock yourselves out with as much as you like where you are)

Roille Figners said...

So here's the thing about oral sex & boobs. You generally don't get to see much of the latter while the former is going on. WTF that sucks, amirite?

Serial Retrogrouch said... that leroy's dog in pic #33?

Scarlett O'Hara said...

It's been a century and a half now, and I still can't believe that we actually lost the War of Northern Aggression!

Serial Retrogrouch said...

...oh, and my favorite is pic #2

talk about wheel sucking

JLRB said...

Spokey - It's also one thing to ban public government sponsored displays of hate symbols and another to ban them all together.

It is wrong to have government displays - like flags flying over capitals - or in courtrooms where people seek fair treatment from their government.

That is not the same as banning symbols - that would infringe on free speech.

Money talks, and when it speaks people listen - so companies that want to keep money flowing in may choose to remove hateful symbols from their shelves. (Money is free speech)

And, states may choose to ban hate flag sales on state property

I am not aware of any efforts to ban hate flags, or prevent schmucks from flying the flags/wearing them on their oversized belt buckles, or even painting them on their helments, etc

BikeSnobNYC said...


I don't think any kind of expression should be banned, nor I'm sure does anybody here.

The Slate writer uses the word "banned" in her article but I assume she's being simplistic.

People should be allowed to fly racist flags and call car crashes whatever they want and go on about how god hates bicyclists and all the rest of it.

It's different with government. They shouldn't be calling crime scenes "accidents" or flying the confederate flag.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

Dooth said...

Semantics, semiotics...and rainbow farts. What else is there to discuss?

Serial Retrogrouch said...

...does wheel sucking qualify as oral sex?

P. Bateman said...

i'll tell you who can fellatiate me: a certain web retailer of bike parts.

Comment deleted said...

Roille, it helps to have long arms.

Anonymous said...

vsk said ...

Hey where's Ms. Babble??

Riding a road bike, or gravel bike, on the road, while offensive to some people, is not associated with conduct shocking behaviour.

While the Confed flag and schwastika had their day, they are associated by a large amount, a critical mass, of people who have agreed that their presence or sight carries an awful meaning. Also that those folks who associate themselves with these banners (are perceived to) espouse the newer, more sinister meaning for whatever reason.
Hey, Mercedes, Audi, BMW don't make SuperSport versions of their cars. I guess the initials didn't rank well in the focus groups.

The Gadsden Flag (Don't Tread On Me), however, that's still OK til someone does something stupid with it. Til then, it stays on the boat.
(I don't have a lawn to chase people off of, it's just dirt under trees, I don't believe in putting all that nitrogen and other chemicals in the ocean causing algae blooms. Real reason, I'm just lazy cause I'm working all the time).

I liked all the pictures.


recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

Yes good pictures. Thanks grouch.

Well the Gadsden flag does depict a serpent chopped into pieces.
That's bound to offend some animal rights group.

BamaPhred said...

Damn what I miss most is Honey Bun in them Stars n Bars bikinis. Looked hella good down at Orange Beach and no one cared. I bet Honey Bun could still cause a riot, not likely she is going to wear anything but a Grammaw swim suit. Just like I used to be able to say something was gay without it leading to an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Doug said...

I have a shovel stuck in my head.

crosspalms said...

Is that Uma in pic 9?

crosspalms said...

I was going to post another comment about the flag, but robot pointed out that JLRB and Snob had said it better at 4:27. Give the robot a raise, Snob, it does good work in spite of the food photos.

JLRB said...

Last and most important


You can have your podium - I won something from a bike shop across the country (I hope this doesn't turn into another Ken claiming the picture gag)

Spokey said...


how could you confuse that with uma

bad boy of the north said...

spokey,thanks for the century nod.

BamaPhred said...

Thanks for the reminder.
Almost time to pump tires
For an evening ride.

wishiwasmerckx said...

Historian, the Civil War was fought over slavery, plain and simple, and Confederate apologists have been trying, unsuccessfully, to relabel the slavery debate as a states right debate for decades. It is ironic that you would chose to call yourself "historian," when the overwhelming majority of historians disagree with your states rights argument.

That it would shock you that Abraham Lincoln was not born an abolitionist, but rather evolved into one, merely demonstrates the same kind of feeble-mindedness that infects Fox News enthusiasts such as yourself.

Remember, LBJ grew up with all the Texas prejudices against Blacks and Latinos, yet came to oversee passage of landmark Civil Rights legislation.

Please promise me that you will not enter a voting booth.

leroy said...

Dear Mr. Historian:

Two blind men standing at either end of an elephant and describing it by touch will have very different conclusions.

Many high school students are familiar with your bits and bobs of Lincolnology. That's just reporting.

Understanding context, significance, and how positions evolve is History.

And unless I'm very much mistaken the States' Right that all the hoopla was about was the right to have laws allowing some folks to own others.

Symbols are important and retiring the Stars and Bars from government buildings is long over due.

But that's just a symbol and just a small step. Racism remains and won't just go away by taking down a symbol. But it's a lstart and a step in the right direction.

And although the "crash/accident" flap isn't on the same level as the civil rights struggle, the word "accident" for motorized mayhem is a symbol that is long overdue for retirement.

That won't make the streets safer, but it too is a step in the right direction.

In the meantime, my dog asks me to remind you that if you're part of a duo describing an elephant while blindfolded and your colleague calls out "what a schmuck," you still can't be sure which end of the elephant you got. Context, signifigance, how positioning evolves is important.

Ride safe all (because this one time at band camp....)

Unknown said...

"If only I could see the accompanying diagram to Note 6, ..."

I'm looking all over for that missing diagram too.

Maybe it is in the papers the Government seized and will not release?

Or if someone is in DC maybe they can see if it is my former home?


Band Camp Instructor said...

Back in the 90s when I last had to consider this formally on medical reports, I recall calling crashes MVAs on paperwork such as that filed to FARS. Just checking now, I see FARS (NHTSA, ie. the Feds in charge of tracking this stuff) now uses MVTC, Motor Vehicle Traffic Crashes.

In day-to-day banter, I would say "auto accident" but "car crashes." Guess my aesthetics places alliteration over accoutability. Sorry for using a Greek word.

BTW: dropped an "o" in "to aware." Fine post though.

Historian said...

Sorry folks,

I am a historian, born and live in a "Union" state, have never owned or flown a confederate flag, my sister and I are married to spouses from racial minorities, have black and Asian and Hispanic friends, don't like dyed in the wool rednecks and racists (most I know are from Ohio and Michigan).

But facts are facts, as are incomplete facts.

Lincoln offered to protect slavery in return for the tariffs, 75 to 90 percent of which were paid for by southern states.

The south took neither and seceded, and the war started to ensure the taxes were collected.

Believe it or not.

wishiwasmerckx said...

Historian, you suck at your job. The tariffs were indeed ONE of the factors in the build-up to succession, but they were way back in 1830 under Andrew Jackson's presidency, not under Lincoln's presidency.

BikeSnobNYC said...


As Leroy pointed out, anybody who's been to school knows the Civil War was not a neat and tidy storybook "Good vs Evil" affair--nor was any war.

So what.

Thanks for invoking the "Some of my best friends are..." argument though.

See you at the reenactment.

--Wildcat Etc.

Dyed in the wool redneck said...

Sorry you couldn't find a white girl to marry you.

Dave said...

Dang - if the government won't return Ted's autobiography, someone's going to have to write it, just whip it up out of whole cloth and moonbeams, smelly rainbows, what have you. Put a Stars and Bars on the front to help it sell, and title it "Accidents They Do Happen" just to really whip up the semi-professional bike bloggers into a fine frothing fury. This is important historical shit, albeit just a wee bit subjective, biased, etc.

Lincoln was a lawyer. I figure he knew the South would turn down any deal, and he just wanted to have some stuff on paper before he went ahead with the war. Just like the Iran deal! (...he said nervously and ironically.)

Anonymous said...

Blabs...missing, not missed.

Jeb said...

Sheeeit! I was gonna git up an' protest the desamacration of th' confederate flag that my pappy's, pappy's, pappy fought under, but I jus' got drunk an' fell asleep on th' front lawn.

leroy said...

Dear Mr. Historian:

My dog wonders how the unpleasantness in Kansas in the run up to war figures in your analysis.

But I think he's just being polite. He's not really interested.

He's like that. He assures me that I am not as dumb as I look.

As for you, he wishes to point out that the phrase is "an historian," not "a historian." I think he's being pedantic.

But the some of my best friends argument? Seriously? That's embarrassing.

Anonymous said...

Speak for yourself. I sort of like the Babble.

Anonymous said...

Hey, now. Don't go squashing on the "don't tread on me" flag. I still want to get sweatshirts with that emblazoned on the back so the Proud twits in their SUVs can snarl as they drive past my 10 speed and again as I pass them at the stop light .

babble on said...

vsk - oh bless your big, beautiful heart. I'm right here, dear boy, and I am NOT even wearing a hamlet. :)

Wow. What a party! And not just a party, either, you guyz r solving the world's problems, right here, right now...

Heh heh you CRUSHED it today, Snobi Wan. Every. Step. Of the Way.

(I can still hear clapping!!)
That was a powerful post, snobberdooders, and yes yes yes WRT the symbolism of the flag and the immmense need for change. Language is a powerful thing, and the act of naming something is a sacred, an almost magical act. YEOWZA!!! Dick Power???!! I LOVE Dick Power! You know that anything with Dick Power in it has GOT to be good.

Speaking of which, have you heard of HeroX? Heh... best sort of kickstarter, that. Bless em. I love that there are still dreamers out there, dreaming of living in Heaven on Earth right here right now every day. AND CAN IT REALLY BE??!?!? The holy grail of vaccines? Is there really a vaccine for malaria? That's whatchacall a game changer.

Leroy? I just love you. That is all.

Stellar day for comments today, peeps. Sweet! I love this place. It's gonna be a great weekend, you can just tell. It's actually raining in drought stricken Vancouver today, blessed be. That's whatchacall off to a good start.

BamaPhred said...

Shhheeeeeiiitttt. Are we still fighting The Recent Unpleasantness? Family lore says that after the first three months the Mississippi planters that promised to supply the troops, that were drafted by the way, quit sending supplies and great great grandpappy and his pals were fighting the Union troops over the Union supplies just to stay alive. Just like today's bosses in Washington DC want you to go fight their wars for them, over things that affect you not one whit. Sheesh. Just saw Hannah Davis on TV lying on a beach with waves washing over her. What are they trying to sell?

Or laying around Wreck Beach said...

Late Day Post for Ms. Babble. Must be gainfully employed again.

Terry Bollea said...

Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation; it was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it. This is not who I am. I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs. Some of my best friends are _______

Dooth said...

Eight minutes ago I used offensive language. It felt good. Some of my friends are green with envy.

Pathetic Old Cyclist said...

Babs, I we could help out you drought stricken Vacouverettes. Here, the great metropolis of NYC is dumping a billion gallons of water a day into the Delaware River. Seems we inadvertently drilled a tiny hole at the bottom of the Cannonsville Res. Anyone have a speed patch for Mr DeBlasio?

I love the discourse within the commentariat today. It seems the only real conclusion we can draw is that NO politicial figure from the era of Messers. Hamilton, Jefferson, Wasington, through our lifetimes of Kennedy, Bushes and Obama, are worth the shit out an elepants ass. All portayed as fresh as the driven snow, but really driven by their own self serving agendas.

babble on said...

Ah well, but that's humanity all over, isn't it?

Yikes. What a fiasco. It must be more than a little stressful living right below that leaky resevoir, wondering if it's going to fail.

Despite rain for the better half of a day, our resevoirs are still hovering at about 69%, so people aren't allowed to water their lawns, fill thier pools, or wash their cars or boats. But when the restrictions were heightened this week, people actually changed their habits, and consumption dropped. Too bad we can't cure ourselves of our addiction to petrochemicals with the same sort of decree.

Spokey said...

yea i must be green with eco friendliness (but certainly not fredliness). i have never watered my lawn in the 40 years i've lived in this shack. don't (never) own a swimming pool. and the last car i washed was my '93 300zx convertible. i do admit to taking a car to the car wash place every spring in hopes that it will wash the salt off the undercarriage.

David G said...

Well, if somebody's going to misspell "non sequitur", it is probably best to do it while belittling classical education … ceteris paribus, that is.

Jesus Has Blessed Me And My Pious way of life. said...

I have these old time bikes that I ride. sometimes after many years I need to tighten the wheel hub, or the bottom bracket, or squirt some oil on something, but that's all I need to do. I can ride and that makes me feel good. All you other 'what is new is best' suckers are fools of the system. Spill your dollars like your semen on a whore and you will be left with nothing.

Holy Roller said...

Wow. I wish I could have said that. Praise the Lord.

Rudyard Kipling, not said...

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the eager Fred's bugling bibshorts as he gazes at his crabon.

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

Well at least we don't have to wait a whole week till Snob comes back. Monday will be around before ya know it. In the mean time check out my Recumbent Update


PotbellyJoe said...

States' Rights are great and all, but I'd think telling other states to return your slaves violates theirs too, so that argument is kind of, well, shit. That's just me though.

I find the majority of people read history up until the point where they go, "That justifies my position. I'll stop digging now."

Unfortunately, our history books for our public schools get white-washed for agencies like TEA because their buying power is so strong. That means we have to run with things like "Lost cause" concepts for the civil war, can't discuss hwy people like Helen Keller were important and many other crimes to our own lineage.

Of course we also teach about how many ancient civilizations believed their leaders were gods, and how strange that is, while we sit here and expect our Presidential candidates to be 100% white-bred perfect. It's insane.

We really are a stupid collection of people.

McFly said...

I am surrounded by the ol blue X flag here in Canada's snuff spitoon. Not really pro or anti but I thought about a small one on my boat engine cowl with GENERAL LEEK on each side.

tubasti said...

Crash, or collision. When I worked as an insurance claims adjustor, "collision" was the preferred word. It implied no intent, just the fact of a motor vehicle in motion causing property damage, injury, or death.

Helen said...

Actual conversation with an actual friend the other day:
Friend: Oh, I'm TERRIBLE about opening my car door. I NEVER remember to look for bikes first (chortles).
Me: But you have to.
Friend: Yes, but I never remember to do it. (Chortling, cute loveable madcap! Ditzy!)
Me: No, you really have to. Really.
Friend: Yes, but...
(Ad infinitum)

Roille Figners said...

The apt part about comparing "accident" to the Confederate flag, is that riding a bike is the closest most white people will ever get to knowing what it's like to be a minority. Because, well, bicycle riders are a minority, on the roads, and subject to all the same kinds of stuff minorities tend to be subject to. Oh like what? Like laws trying to get us to go somewhere else, scapegoating, stereotyping, mean-spirited jokes, actual real violence, the selective denial of employment including selective layoff (has happened to both me and my wife), cops covering up crimes against us, separate but not-quite-equal public facilities, and so on.

Now here's the thing, you can choose to exit this particular minority group at any time, and therefore we supposedly have an advantage over people being discriminated-against because of something intrinsic to their nature. For example the second you put feet on the ground you're now a "pedestrian." And if you use those feet to walk a little ways over to a car and get in, you're now a "motorist" and part of the majority, and wrapped in its cozy guilt-deflecting swaddling-clothes. So yay for that, and yet the irony kind of just pisses me off all the more. Like yeah, skin-tone or racial discrimination is pretty meaningless and arbitrary, but being on a bike isn't even a permanent condition.

BamaPhred said...

The General Leek! Oh god, oh god, my sides are hurting from laughter! Now I've gotta do it too! I could put an Alabama state flag sticker on my cowl in place of the X graphic.

Angry Beaver in Miramichi said...

"GENERAL LEEK": McFly zooms in late for the win!

Angry Beaver in Miramichi said...

The General Lee, slavery, flags, accidents, crashes, so life goes on down in Canada's undies. Meanwhile over in France there's been great helicopter coverage of magnificent chateaus, the drug addicts riding bikes, who cares?. Jens Voigt has been breath of fresh air.

dop said...


Helen Balcony said...

Straya :(

leroy said...

Roille is right.

Doc Sarvis said...

Guns cost more than beer, as you would know if you weren't trying to be clever

Doc Sarvis said...

That's right, it is. That is what you are doing as well. It means something different to every single person. Quit being such a New York Jew ffs...

David Pearce said...

Dear Snob,

I have an idea that intrigues me, maybe you, too!?

Most times your new posts seem to be posted at about 11:00 a.m. -- Noon EST. How about one or two days of the year, you post an EVENING BSNYC post?

On the shortest day of the year? Or longest day of the year? (Winter, Summer Solstice) or April First?

BTW, the TdF is now officially over. The best part of the year, between the Summer Solstice and end of TdF, approximative le fin de Juillet, the best part of the year is officially over, and now it's just a delightful and painless slide down the razor blade of life toward the winter.

Best wishes,
Your depressive friend,

D. P.

P.S. I used to love the Spring-Summer and hate the Fall-Winter. Spring-Summer has more daylight, (supposedly) better temperatures; the Fall-Winter has the opposite. But now, with my mother so clutched by the terrible dementia, the Fall-Winter time, when nothing is growing that must be mowed, pruned, swept & burned, or set out for the trashman, is the time I like best, the time I don't have to worry as much about what I'm not doing.

Anyway, besides my ranting & rambling, think about a nighttime BSNYC blog post! :-)

Arizona redneck said...

Them White bitches are nuthin' but pure trouble. Gimme one o' them Jew honeys. Hot like two foxes fornicatin' Inna forest fire

Anonymous said...

Hallelujahgobble brother

David Pearce said...


"See accompanying diagram."

Well? Let's see it!


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dop said...

General Leek? You telling me Bobby was Welsh?

JLRB said...

Leroy is right about Roilie

DP is right about the razor blade

JLRB said...

Watched the two last mountain stages on DVR - got sucked in like a Fred on a dentists wheel

Liked weekend race car dentist Fred ad

Will miss Hanah - move to the knees

bad boy of the north said...

hope you're feeling better,ms.babble.

bad boy of the north said...

well...back to the 90 degree ny's heel.anybody want to do a gran fondon"t in oymyakon?maybe we can shoot for February of 2016?

BamaPhred said...

I, for one, gleefully anticipate the demise of summer and the onset of fall. I watch for the dew point to change. It's still in the mid 70's. Anything below 70 and it starts feeling tolerable again.

Anonymous said...

sometimes i feel i've got to run away

JLRB said...

Fall temps are certainly better here, too. But, the problem with fall, and the slide into winter, is the shorter days. For commuting that means lights, and eventually layers of crud to wear. Cold, dark despair, death and dying everywhere. Must be Monday.

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