Monday, November 17, 2014

In Search of the World's Greatest City in America!

As "America's Most Bike-Friendly City," New York does her best to throw that cumbersome title off her back like a bucking bronco dispensing with a redneck.  To that end, her latest rodeo clown is Bono, humanitarian and vocal stylist for aging rock band U2, who has suffered a crash in Central Park:


Just days after he ‘cheated death’ following an in-flight emergency over Germany, Bono has been forced to pull out of a scheduled TV appearance in New York after falling off his bike in Central Park on Sunday.

The U2 frontman has since been left needing surgery for an injury to his arm – and cancelled the final leg of the band’s weeklong Tonight Show appearances because of it.

As a New Yorker I hate to see anybody get hurt on a bike in my town, so naturally I've been looking for somebody to blame.  I find it unlikely that the fault lies with Bono himself, inasmuch as he is almost as famous for his bike-handling skills as he is for his singing:



Though as he's gotten older he has devolved into something of a Fred:


("Fred ride, bloody Fred ride...")

Then again, haven't we all?

I know I have.

Nevertheless, if this incident had happened in the summer I would have blamed the sun, since judging from his complexion 20 minutes of August daylight would have been more than sufficient to cause Bono to burst into flames.  However, it's been cloudy and cold here in New York, so I was forced to exonerate the hated flaming orb that torments us from on high.

Next, I tried to blame Strava, but from what I can tell Bono doesn't even use Strava...unless he rides under a pseudonym, such as "Bono H." of Boring, OR:


This was a promising lead, inasmuch as U2 does have that song where Bono goes "Yeah!  Yeah!  Yeah!  Yeah!" over and over again.  However, there were no segments in Central Park on the day of the crash, so I doubt Bono was trying to reclaim his "self-important vocalist KOM" from that Arcade Fire guy when he hit the deck.

Therefore, I'm going to go ahead and blame Specialized:


And I'm also going to attribute this to "catastrophic crabon and Zertz failure" until I hear otherwise.

In the meantime, all best wishes to our brother-in-Fredness Bono for a speedy recovery.



Hey, by all means, go for it.  I'm sure it's lovely.  Judging from the video, Des Moines has half-empty cafés:


(Nothing says "cool café" like a carpeted floor.)

Mostly-empty comedy clubs:


(Kind of a morbid name for a comedy club, no?)

And boutiques that sell clever t-shirts:


(Almost as cool as the mall in White Plains.)

Though at no point do they come right out and say what the video and article are both implying:



Yep, that's right: Des Moines is 76.4% white to Portland's 76.1%.  I didn't think it was even possible for a city to be whiter than Portland, but there you go.  And after this most recent push I won't be surprised if they crack 80%, at which point they'll include a pair of plane tickets to Des Moines with your Bard degree.

Even David Byrne is stumping for them:

Talking Heads frontman and Des Moines fan David Byrne touched on that idea at the Social Club's launch party in this same courtyard, where he pondered why a music scene or an artistic scene or a theater scene develops in any city. "What makes it happen?" he asked the crowd of 500. "It's hard to say. There's no guarantees, but it is possible and it's certainly not going to happen unless there are places like this. And, sad for me to say, it's not going to happen in Manhattan anymore, which means it's up to you guys."

So wait a minute.  Because Manhattan's over everyone has to move all the way to Iowa?  Is there no middle ground?  There are other places in and around New York City, and there are even other cities on the East Coast.  I can hear Philly even as I type this:


Just kidding!  Here's what Philly is really saying:


But the biggest selling point of all for Des Moines is that it's the home of the world's most aerodynamic racing bicycle:

The most aerodynamic racing bicycle in the world is made in a business park five blocks from downtown Des Moines at Rüster. The bike runs $6,000 at the basic level, or $10,000 with all components. Ethan Davidson, the 24-year-old chief operating officer, wants to build a culture here that challenges the old way of thinking—that manufacturing world-class products should happen elsewhere. "Why not here?" says Davidson, walking through an office with desks welded and bikes crafted in the same space. "Why not manufacture carbon fiber composite products right here in Des Moines? It is happening here. It's real." 

Oh, it's real all right, and here it is:



(Disclaimer: I fell asleep a minute and a half into the video.)

So let's recap:

White as Bono's inner thighs?  Check.  Endorsed by David Byrne?  Check.  Artisanal Fred superbikes?  Check.

Good grief, they're more Portland than Portland!  So why the hell did "Bicycling" not name them the Number One Bike-Friendly City instead of us?!?

But what if you've decided to move to Des Moines but you don't want to ride an aerodynamic crabon Fred sled?  Well, you can always get a motorized fat bike instead:




According to the inventor, a motorized fat bike allows you to "go fast" and "conquer hills."  However, a simpler option would be to just skip the motor and not ride a fat bike, since basically all the motor is doing is merely overcoming the stupid fat bike.  It's like the hybrid SUV that gets 20mpg.

It is made of "aircraft grade aluminum" though:


It's always "aircraft grade," isn't it?  Like we're supposed to be impressed.  So what's lower than "aircraft grade," anyway?  Is there "sandwich-wrapping grade?"  I don't know, but Mr. Tan Shirt is going to be King of the Sidewalk on his motorized fat bike, that's for sure:


Best of all, by living in Des Moines you'll save so much money you can take up exotic hobbies like "ski biking:"
 


In 2007 friend of mine Kevin Laycraft introduced me to Ski biking. He let me use one of his ski bikes. Bikes he designed and built. I have to be honest, I was scared at first. At the end of second hour of ski biking at Lake Louise, I new that this is my winter sport. I felt so comfortable, safe, happy. Recently I built myself a second ski bike, based on Kevin's design.

She's a real beauty, too:

Though don't forget to wear your duck feet:


And here he is in action:




Fat bike my ass:


I was wondering what all those snowboarders were doing lying around on the trail in the video, but now I know they were probably doubled over with laughter.

137 comments:

Anonymous said...

GOOO OOLD

Anonymous said...

2

ConterdictorBot9000 said...

I'm not doing the podium thing no more..

Anonymous said...

SILVER

Blog Drafter said...

This just in...

Eric Lowe said...

The streets had no name

the Jimboner said...

yar!

Anonymous said...

Too much information. Not enough fluff.

cycle

James said...

somebody get Bono a bike fitting.

wishiwasmerckx said...

Toppus tennus.

babble on said...

Gooood Monday morning! Yes, FredsRus.

Freddy Murcks said...

I went to college with someone from Des Moines. Her goal in life was to become the girlfriend of the lead singer of Pavement, Stephen Malkmus; she somehow succeeded in spite of the fact that she was probably a certifiable stalker. She now lives in Portland.

PotbellyJoe said...

It may be whiter than Portland, but Boise, ID still carries the title of whitest city on Earth.

Complete with artisanal potatoes (potatos for Quayle lovers)

PotbellyJoe said...

If Missoula, MT were larger, that 92% white would stand out. But it's too small to be a mecca, in the same way Provo, UT is too small to be a mecca for anyone who isn't Mormon.

The best part to being a non-Mormon in Provo, is with a 98% Mormondom, Everyone just assumes your Mormon, so they don't try to convert you.

Spokey said...

top

1 score and 1 + Triskaidekaphobia ago

Spokey said...

damnit joe

cut that out

what do i do now? no one fears 15

Comment deleted said...

Des Moines is the insurance capital of the midwest! The Hartford of Iowa! Come for the...um, (mumble), and stay for the um, (mumble)!

PotbellyJoe said...

Spokey,

Sorry to have a post in the middle of your 13 party.

Spokey said...

disagree

missoula is pretty large town for the middle of nowhere. iwas there doing the trans am route. I was also in Austin Junction which was a town consisting of a post office, supply store, restaurant, grocery store, etc. all in one building

wishiwasmerckx said...

-walking through an office with desks welded and bikes crafted in the same space...

I don't think that I want my custom frame fabricated by the desk-welder guy.

PotbellyJoe said...

So what's whiter? Boise at 250k people and 89% white, or Missoula a town of 70k people 92% white?

The only thing whiter is the Bonneville Salt Flats.

Federico da Milano said...

Nice pie plate, Bono...

wishiwasmerckx said...

"At the end of second hour of ski biking at Lake Louise, I new that this is my winter sport."

I am thinking of getting this quote as a nuckle tat.

Vannah, I'd like to buy a "k."

McFly said...

Injured his arm and cancelled a leg? That's some aircraft grade irony.

Flyover BC said...

Snow boarders lie around on the trail because it's nearly impossible to move around with a giant monopod for a foot.

BtW I think the fat bike fad is about over. I saw one cruising around in Santa Fe the other day, which means its use has diffused to the nearly maximum extent, when it hits El Paso, TX and Las Cruces, NM, its over.

Paul McCartney said...

That looks familiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iA5mbNOats said...

So was Bono wearing a bloody helment or not?

Spokey said...
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Spokey said...



I thought the Air Spear was the fastest bike. Or did snobbie lead us astray back then?

o what's lower than "aircraft grade," anyway? Is there "sandwich-wrapping grade?"

yes it's just called just Quality Aluminum Foil

Anonymous said...

vsk said ...

The door on Bono's airplane came off because it was made from bicycle grade aluminimuminuminum.

So epic outside I took the train.

vsk 8280

crosspalms said...

I was born in Des Moines. An admission, not a boast. Does that half-empty cafe have free wi-fi?

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DB said...

Des Moines isn't bad. It's on my short list of retirement venues.
Madison is still number one, Chattanoga interests me, gotta check it out, McFly's backyard is on the list as is Leroy's guest room.
Also need to check out Flyover's neighborhood and Babble's garage.
Snob's neighborhood is out of my price range.

mikeweb said...

Hey I fell asleep about halfway through the post. How did it end?

Anonymous said...

That cafe in Des Moines kinda reminded me of my AA meeting.

Charlie said...

PBJ,

Maybe in Provo, but surprisingly not so in SLC, where I was accosted by a nice young man from California. I asked him if there was even any point in coming to such well-trod ground and was told that Salt Lake City has a relatively large percentage of non-Mormons. Who knew?

DB said...

David Byrne played the 80-35 music festival in Des Moines last year.
This year Cake, Chicago Farmer and twenty bands I've never heard of are playing.

Anonymous said...

Saddle is too low.

DB said...

Hey. Crosspalms:
I went to Drake for two years before transferring to Iowa.
On Friday afternoons we'd hang out downtown in front of the insurance companies and check out the ladies as they were leaving work.
Good times.

leroy said...

Can Dorothy Rabinowitz account for her whereabouts when Mr. Bono crashed?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Anonymous said...

Can we just sell all of the middle rectangular states to Canada and be done with it?

dtwright said...

Bet you could crush the hell out of RAGBRAI with that Rüster.

Bryan said...

I don't think you could pay me enough to live in one of those interior states. Or any state north of the Mason Dixon Line. Certainly not a combination of the two.
I watched th videos cause I needed a nap

grog said...

Bono bombed. Got details?

Stuart Rasmussen said...
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Stuart Rasmussen said...

"Bike Rag" seemed to give extra credit for cities having a bike share program and Des Moines was one of the cities they got wrong. Des Moines actually does have a small B-cycle system. Amusingly Bicycling never features Bike Share bikes on their cover, don't really talk about them much, and are mostly Fred-like obsessed with recreational speed bikes. They are sort of the "98% of Commuters Favor Public Transit For Everybody Else"-types.
Des Moines is actually a nice bike city, and i'm saying that from Madison....Also Des Moines has an extensive system of Skywalks, so pretty pleasant for us old white guys.
City rivalries are mostly passe, but you do realize that if y'all give up the title, then Chicago would be #1.

dop said...

m is for mindayu. and meh


if i gave a shit, i'd correct the typo

Anonymous said...

Snowbike... does he have a license to run that thing.

http://skihoodoo.com/snowbike-lessons/

Spokey said...

stuart

I was at the velodrome in Trexlertown (near rodale) maybe 2-3 years ago and ran in to two Bikesickling employees.

They seemed truly astonished when I told them that I didn't subscribe because of their obsession with speedy sport bieks. I noted things like touring bikes, commuter bikes etc got the briefest small occasional mention if they got any at all.

My impression was that they think they are catering to the general population.

BTW I'm noticing that Bieksickling Times is trying to lose the base as well. Not by going to sport speedy but covering ever weirder niches.

oh, and bieksickling. Your occasional tips for the backyard mechanic mostly suck. robot says they are espara allso but it is wrong. they just suck.

Anonymous said...

"can grade"

Spokey said...

can grade sounds like an oblique ref to KimK. I thought that was banned on this forum recently.

JB said...

Can grade: B+

Freddy Murcks said...

Anon @2:14 - The middle, rectangular states are kind of nice. We definitely have the best skiing and mountain biking. And our low population density means that it's not all assholes and elbows every time you want to go out and enjoy the outdoors. Nonetheless, I might welcome sale to Canada. Then I could finally have that single-payer healthcare system I have been wanting.

1904 Cadardi said...

"Sandwhich Wrapper Grade" aluminiumiumum is harder to make than the aircraft grade stuff. You want difficult? Anon @ 2:49 has it right: Can grade. That takes some serious metallurgy.

1904 Cadardi said...

Freddy,

At first I thought the "sell the rectangle states to Canada" was meant as an insult. But after more consideration, it seems like a good idea.

Maybe Canadia would be willing to trade Quebec for the middle US.

BikeSnobNYC said...

Freddy and 1904,

I would LOVE it if Canada bought New York State, though there's no way they'd want all that filler north of Westchester.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

crosspalms said...

Stuart,
Here in Chicago, where we'll be No. 1 in something any day now, it was 14 degrees when I rode in to work. Child's play for the bearded Minnesotan Snob likes to roll out sometimes, but still. 14.

DB,
My dad went to Drake after getting out of the Navy. That's how I showed up there. Hats off to the GI Bill!

CommieCanuck said...

Yeah, we thought about buying NY state, but we turned back after Buffalo, the city of Perpetual Flame.

CommieCanuck said...

How it happened...
Bono was wearing his blue tinted sunglasses, which makes the stop signs in Central park look purple, so he ran a stop sign and crashed. His screams of agony were heard for miles, laid down across three tracks and will be free with the next iPhone.

Test Tickle said...

Bono broke a bone? Oh....

BONO FIED

DB said...

COD Commie, 3:34.
Please buy us, Commie, et al.

Cus D'Amato said...

I would LOVE it if Canada bought New York State, though there's no way they'd want all that filler north of Westchester.

Why wait for a foreign country to buy you? Re-boot the drive to make NYC the 51 State and you can be free from the filler. No one up would oppose you seceding.

Cus D'Amato said...

...the 51st State and you can be free from the filler. No one up here would oppose you seceding.

i never learned the good spelling...

BikeSnobNYC said...

Cus D'Amato,

They'd never let us leave, we have all the finance. At best we'd wind up like Hong Kong.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

PS: Did you know we're related?

Anonymous said...

The "best city to bike" in is the one right out your front door, because then you do not have to drive to it!

Get well soon Bono and Dulcie.

BikeSnobNYC said...

Cus,

Oh, you meant secede from the state, not the country. Oops.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

dop said...

If at first you don't secede, try, try again

MaxUtil said...

There's "a business park five blocks from downtown Des Moines"? What is downtown, a couple of insurance company buildings and one Peet's coffee where the hipsters hang out?

Flyover BC said...

DB, You might as well come on down. Every one else is.

Fanta Se is good if you have enough money to spend on a house.

ABQ has better weather, more to do, and housing that is about 50% less expensive for the same thing as SF, and about 400 miles of designated bikes lanes and dedicated paved trails.

I'd recommend my real home town of El Paso, which is not at all white (about 80% Mexican American), with generally great weather, really low crime, and low housing costs. But it is dry, and you'll really learn to appreciate trees, because there aren't many. It's getting safer for bikes, but still a bit dangerous.

The NYT had an article a few days ago that included El Paso. It focused on what used to be the worst part of town. But, otherwise got a few details right.

DB said...

Thanks, Flyover.
I did read that article.
I have been to SF and ABQ AND Roswell. Have been to Carlsbad. Nice state. And you have F-16's to protect you. Always a plus.

Flyover BC said...

DB,

the F-16s are gone.

They've been replaced with F-22s, AC-130s, and predators.

EP's got an armored division now, and do most of their training in NM.

What took you to Roswell? UFO's.

Rednecks protect the southern border.

Steve B said...

Honestly, I don't want a bunch of New Yorkers moving there and screwing up Des Moines. It has an active bike culture, good breweries, and it's cheap.

Brian from PDX said...

Wasn't the ski bike concept first introduced in the 1980s John Cusack movie "Better Off Dead?" See 4:22 of the below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z9Cg46Nktw

Flyover BC said...

Ski bikes have been around since at least 1975. I hitched a ride down the mountain on one after breaking a ski binding., once upon a time. No suspension is bitch in the moguls.

Cus D'Amato said...

"PS: Did you know we're related?"

No I did not know that. I guess you are a cos of Cus? Did I ever teach you how to defend your self? (The first rule of boxing is to not let the other guy hit you.)

Richard Lester said...

”Ski bikes have been around since at least 1975.”

See Paul's comment above at 1:31 PM

DB said...

Friends I went to school with lived there for awhile, then went to work on the Reservation. Thought there was an F-16 base in NM?

Flyover BC said...

Lester saw he post didn't follow the link.

DB,
The Air Guard and one AFB had F-16s. Another AFB had F-117s (stealth).

It's mostly been converted to SOWs.

Anonymous said...

I'll wager you're safe

Peter G said...

Bono...
Pasty faced to reflect the white hot spotlight. His bike seems a tad small.

1904 Cadardi said...

A key difference between the cities: in NYC the urine smell is human, DesMoines' agricultural. Still smells like pee.

Anonymous said...

Crap! MAMLs on electric fat bikes on trails they otherwise wouldn't even attempt, hauling large ass on the climbs and white-knuckling the descents. Look out below, other trail users!

Hopefully, natural selection will take care of the problem and quickly. Fat biking on rough trails is like riding on basketballs. With no damping, you just randomly carom off roots and rocks and into other hard, unforgiving things, like bigger roots and rocks. (I've never used "carom" before.)

The trails will be littered with decomposing corpulent corpses, more things to carom off of.

Anonymous said...

Let's not forget that Des Moines' daily paper, The Register, hosts RAGBRAI, the greatest Fred-fest in the USofA. NYC's 5 Boro Bike Ride pales in comparison.

Flyover BC said...

We're only as safe as funding for national defense allows.

Otherwise, NM's economic base is limited to welfare, food stamps, and tourism, oh and green chile.

Matt said...

I grew up in Des Moines. It's nice, one of those places described as 'a good place to raise a family', meaning cheap, white and boring. I moved 20 years ago to the Twin Cities for, you know, the weather and the diversity, and after I left Iowa went batshit conservative crazy. DSM isn't a bad place to ride, though, and I used to commute to my job at Sears on sew-ups.

Drock said...

Thank you for that it made fun of all things I make fun of especially iowa. Don't forget blue jersey. Down the middle

Bama Phred said...

I don't recommend secession. Didn't work out so well last time it was tried.

Arthur I. Boreman said...

"I don't recommend secession. Didn't work out so well last time it was tried."

Well West Virginia seceded from Virginia, as an attempt to punish Virginia for seceding from the USA. Insert your West Virginia joke here about got punished or rewarded.

McFly said...

The hierarchy that I work under in Tennessee is basically from Iowa. My boss did the RAGBRAI multiple times. I hear LOTS of Iowa stories. I am trying to be topical. Not succeeding.

P. Bateman said...

those snowboarders are doing exactly what they always do. lay around on their asses clogging up the run waiting on their other snowboard friends to come sliding down the hill finally to join them.

get some skis you hippies.

U-505 said...

Was he faking it or was it a Bono fide injury?

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 5:42

RAGBRAI can't be a Fred fest because it is more about the silly costumes and drinking.

I was told a story by a native Iowan who woke up with his pals on RAGBRAI and got a decent morning start.They rode a la fast Fred paceline style to the next designated route night stop. No one was ready for them and they had to wait around all day with nothing to do in this podunk Iowa pit stop for the ride.

JLRB said...

Bono was listening to his bone fone when he got lost in the shadows and tall trees - he tried to walk away walk away but his arm would not follow, with or without you, etc. etc.

JLRB said...

94

nah - too tired for a late century

JLRB said...

95

and Spokey would just creep up at the last second anyway

Just one more said...

96

wishiwasmerckx said...

Well, if youse guys insist...

wishiwasmerckx said...

...I guess I can...

wishiwasmerckx said...

...stretch this here thing out...

wishiwasmerckx said...

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Anonymous said...

Ridiculously bad bike fit in every possible dimension? Check.
Stock bike shop dork disk? Check.
Loose fitting t-shirt with the sleeves rolled up for some reason? Check.
Full carbon road shoes with baggy Nike tennis shorts? Check.
Triple crankset for the crushing grades of Manhattan island? Check.

That some hardcore Fredding right there.

semi serious cyclist said...

BSNYC, I think you may have found a new calling to segue into. As the two trends of a burgeoning population of senior citizens and the 21 century bicycling boom intertwine, "Fred Acceptance" seminars at the bike shows. Develop mantras like "Embrace the Upright", "Reject Cat 6" and twine. Lots of twine. Or, at least according to Grant P. - even though even his supreme fredly status is in jeopardy, as Chris and VO trounces the faux vintage biek industry. Embrace your inner Fred. You'd be in good company too, look at the foppish dandy Gary Fisher and the increasingly bilious LeMond. A lucrative bike expo topic, singing a paean to the Fredly pantheon. WE ARE ALL FRED WE ARE DEVO.

Anonymous said...

What would be the female equivalent of a "Fred?"

semi serious cyclist said...

Um, "fred".

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