Monday, March 11, 2013

It's Monday So Let's Dork Out About Bikes And Death!

Last Friday, I posted the following picture of my bicycle:


Which, predictably, elicited the following comment:

Anonymous said...

Wildcat, out of respect, admiration and, what the hell, love I have to say that stem is too long. Your scranus must draft nicely, but no one wants to see it jutting out. I doubt you were measured for the frame and stem set up.

March 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Firstly, I love you too.  Secondly, you're absolutely right, I was not measured for the frame and set-up.  In fact, I was not measured for the frame and set-up on purpose, because if I had been then some Fredly doofus might have told me that I should use this stem instead of that, make my top tube Ycm long instead of Xcm, move my saddle that way instead of this way, put my levers here instead of there, use these cleats instead of those, and so forth.  The end result of this would have been that I would have had exactly the bike I didn't want.  Instead, I would have had exactly the bike some Fredly doofus wanted me to have, and moreover I would have paid him for the privilege.

Believe it or not, after riding numerous skinny-tire bikes set up numerous ways over the years, I've discovered that what makes me happy on a going-fast road bike is exactly the top tube and stem length as pictured above.  I suspect the reason for it is that the first road bike I started racing on "seriously" was set up this way, and even though I'm 95% retired from bike racing anything else has felt wrong since.  Even so, what's the difference?  I guess if I was using a stem with a measurement so odd that it had to be custom made I'd think about changing things, but as it is it's a perfectly common stock size.

I begrudge no Fred for forking over a bunch of money to have a fellow Fred point lasers at his crotch.  Hey, if you need to feel that the act of putting yourself on a bike should require as much calculus as that of sending a rocket into outer space then feel free to indulge.  It does tie in well with the Strava and the wattage and all the other forms of "off-foffing" roadies seem to like so much.  As for me, I'll keep riding exactly the way I always have until my body tells me otherwise, in which case I'll make the appropriate adjustment.

By the way, we would all do well to remember that there's a little thing called "personal style:"


If James Brown had been a cyclist then a bunch of Freds would have taken him to task for not wearing a body suit that was tested in a wind tunnel.

Speaking of bicycle set-up minutiae, I recently came across the following blog post from "Bicycling" magazine's test director via Bill Strickland's Twittering account, which gives considerable insight into their bike testing process:

(Parallogram?)

I particularly appreciated the disclosure that pretty much all these bikes are the same:


I’ve noticed that a lot of your reviews sound the same.

I’m aware of that and I do try to avoid repeating myself. In my own defense, however, I often feel like I’m riding the same bike over and over. Despite the logos and paint, most of the road bikes I review are made out of the same material (and often built in the same factory), with geometry that varies only a few millimeters, and built up with the same, or very similar, parts. Additionally, almost every bike is built to satisfy the same requirements: low weight, high stiffness, responsive handling etc. So, perhaps it’s not surprising that a lot of bikes feel familiar. 

I do honestly think that the strong majority of the bikes I ride are excellent and will serve any rider well. Really. 

Having joined in on a "Bicycling" magazine Editor's Choice bike testing orgy a couple years back (note they have not invited me again since) this was certainly my experience.  Really, the only way the various brands managed to screw up a bike was by incorporating weird, fussy, or proprietary features, which a surprising number of them seem unable to refrain from doing.  For example, what's the point of a seatpost with an expander wedge, apart from giving the rider another maddening creak to chase?  So quill stems are totally "out," yet quill posts are apparently "in?"  Presumably it's to keep people from over-tightening their precious crabon, in which case you should expect quill stems to make a comeback under some new name like "The Interna-Torque® Integrated Expanding Wedge Cockpit System Concept."

I did, however, disagree with his assessment of the phrase "laterally stiff and vertically compliant:"


What’s your take on ‘laterally stiff and vertically compliant?’

Ah, LSVC. Here’s how I view it: just because it is obvious and overused, doesn’t mean it is not true. Example: if 100 people described Coca Cola, how many of them would not use the word ‘sweet’? Go ride a bunch of modern carbon bikes: most of them are quite laterally stiff and vertically compliant. 

I see his point that this phrase refers to a property that's inherent in pretty much every sporting bicycle (after all, they're all the same, as he points out) though I'd argue it's less like calling Coca Cola "sweet" and more like calling it "orally savory and lingually unsour."

Anyway, it's worth pointing out that for many months now I've been using a certain pair of 23mm tires on my above-pictured bicycle with the apparently gargantuan stem, and the bike has ridden awesomely.  Then, last week, I put on the exact same make and model of tires except in 25mm, and it now rides like a completely different awesome bicycle.

So next time you're thinking about getting a new bike, change the tires instead.

Meanwhile, the New York Times wants you to relax because New York City drivers kill fewer people than actual murderers:

When events like this happen sequentially, taking on the cast of epidemic, it is reasonable to ask just how safe walking really is in New York. According to newly released data from the Tri-State Transportation Campaign, a nonprofit group that works to reduce car dependence, there were 451 pedestrian fatalities in the city between 2009 and 2011, fewer than the number of homicides in 2011. Although you are much more likely to be struck by a vehicle on Park Avenue and 33rd Street — which has been considered among the city’s most dangerous pedestrian intersections — than you are to get stabbed to death there, over all, murder is still more prevalent than vehicular death, despite the drastic reductions in crime that have distinguished the city’s past two decades.

Wow.

First of all, the 451 person figure is "pedestrian fatalities," and doesn't count all the other people killed by reckless drivers, such as cyclists, other drivers, or their passengers.  Second of all, I'd argue that the fact that drivers are killing as many pedestrians in three years as murderers are killing in one is actually pretty horrifying.  After all, murderers are actually trying to kill people, whereas drivers are theoretically just trying to get to work or the store.

By the way, if you look at all those homicides in 2011, there were 515 in total, and 38% of them were the results of disputes or acts of revenge.  That's about 196 people.  Meanwhile, there were 237 traffic fatalities by December 27th of that same year--and this was touted as an all-time low.

In other words, by the same stupid logic by which the New York Times says pedestrian deaths compare favorably with murders, you could also draw the equally stupid conclusion that ripping off a drug dealer is less dangerous than crossing the street.

In fact, the only reasonable conclusion to draw from any of this is that the New York Times is about to endorse a mayoral candidate who's going to rip out all the bike lanes.  (Which is obvious, because this describes all of the mayoral candidates.)

Lastly, here's an impressive bike spotted by Mike in Vancouver:


That's both sweet and laterally stiff yet vertically compliant.

122 comments:

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

bent.

Anonymous said...

Ass Monkeys... ATTACK!!!

Anonymous said...

First Loser!

Anonymous said...

NEAR PODIUM?

mikeweb said...

Sneaky.

Kenny said...

AND THAT'S HOW A BILL BECOMES FURLOUGHED!

theEel said...

weed!

d28 said...

POING

babble on said...

Goooooood day!

dcee604 said...

squeeze in the top 10?

Anonymous said...

Out of the money, again.

babble on said...

Oh dear. That is a very unfortunate looking bike...

bikesgonewild said...

..."...maceo !!!...50 dolla...get yo shit togetha, brotha, you hit a wrong note on 'at solo..."...

babble on said...

Ok, so did anyone else read about the asshole who drove off with a cyclists arm in his car...??

babble on said...

ewwwww

Anonymous said...

I wish I could have been right under Babble. But I read the post first, and now I have dcee604 and Anonymouse separating me from sweet Babbs. I really want to be under Babble - or on top of Babble if that seems to suit the mood.

Anonymous said...

I guess I am under Babble

babble on said...

And the good news is that it is indeed possible to ride in seven inch heels!

babble on said...

looks like the best of both worlds...

Anonymous said...

Top XX?

Anonymous said...

That Vancouver bike must be hell to ride in a cross wind. The wind does blow up there doesn't it?

It probably works like a sail with a tail wind though.

ken e. said...

wtf?...so that's where my sixties cafe racer fairing went.

The King of Park Slope said...

Your stem is too long.

Anonymous said...

Rockin' a 120 and Sky be dopin'...


...just sayin

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

"I'll keep riding exactly the way I always have until my body tells me otherwise, in which case I'll make the appropriate adjustment."

Yeah I share your philosophy Wildcat Long Stem Machine. When I get to be 85 years old when weak bones and loss of balance makes a two wheeler impractical I'll make adjustments to a recumbent trike.

Oh who am I kidding. Bent trikes are pretty cool I'll probably have one in the next few years.

bikesgonewild said...

...if his wife can handle, it's all just fine, park slope regal...

Anonymous said...

One of my "teammates" back when I raced tried to get me to let him set up my bike, saying that my position was wrong. He never placed better than me in any of the races we did together. Needless to say, I didn't take him up on his offer.

Anonymous said...

Don't all the pros ride long stems?

jayteepee said...

Well, since nobody else has the balls to say it, it's up to me. Not only is your stem too long, but you also have too many spacers. There. You're welcome.

jno62 said...

"orally savory and lingually unsour."

Great name for a band.

Well played Snobby!

Comment deleted said...

You freds would hate my stem, but um, fuck you. Try getting an off-the-rack bike to fit when you're 6'4".

And if you say I should have it custom built, un-fuck you.

Anonymous said...

Awesome apocalypse bike! So the rocket launchers are concealed in the fairing, right? I mean, that's where I'd put them.

Anonymous said...

I didn't notive the length of your stem, as I was too fixated on the fact that you are rocking fenders on that bad boy.. Why not give in to the inevitable and head down to the Schwinn shop for some reflectors to mount between your spokes...

crosspalms said...

So the second drivetrain on that bike powers a generator to run the heater or refrigerator unit in the container on the back? Or is it like the contraption ET made to call space? Quite a bike.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I bought new tires for my old VW van, and I could actually keep it on the road at speeds over 50mph.

By the way, even with the old tires my driving never resulted in human roadkill. Ran over a raccoon once though.

Jimboner said...

Babs, the guy getting his arm ripped off in Sao Paulo is getting alot of press here as it happened the day after a huge Bicycle Awareness Ride. If the guy had stuck around the accident he might have been murdered by angry citizens, it happen to a driver in my town of 10k last year. Drunk driver hit a guy on a motorcycle, was dragged out of his car and killed by the concerned townsfolk. No one was arrested, that is how it goes in Brasil.

ge said...

I've always thought of savory as contrasting with sweet. If your Coke is orally savory, you might want to try a bottle with a shorter neck.

Anonymous said...

Bent trikes ARE cool. Used one a few years ago when I injured my hand. The bro's in the hood thought it was badass.

babble on said...

Yeah I read that, but his excuse doesn't hold a lot of water, since he dropped his friend off and then tossed the arm in a dirty creek before he turned himself in.

What the fuck is wrong with people??

balls™ said...

By all means, WCRM... slam that stem. After all, it's more important that your bike recreate the prevailing aesthetic than actually feel comfortable to you while you ride it.

Comment deleted said...

I'm leaving for NYC tonight to play some music. I am thrilled to learn that I am more likely to be murdered than run down by a car.

Anonymous said...

I bought that Fuso. Getting some custom woodies. I am still torn between Brooks B-17, Sella Italia Turbo, and Selle San Marco Rolls, all brown.

I also want some wider bars. Deda speciale 26 in 46cm, or Nitto Noodles in 44cm?
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/487450_10151396926013692_382222010_n.jpg

Anonymous said...

..'that is how it goes in Brazil.'

Pretty much covers it. See you all at the olympics.

Anonymous said...

BSNYC, your sizing preferences are decidedly goofy. You are married to a mid nineties fad. It's likely you went to the tailor, and got custom JNCO's. Stems should never be over 150mm.

Jimboner said...

Don´t forget the World Cup!

Serial Retrogrouch said...

vancouver has helment laws?

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

Scranus.

Anonymous said...

The NYT article does some fact twisting, to be sure.

It seems the topic of murder largely relevant if you have had prior law problems, are black, are male, and are age 16-37.

True, comparing pedestrian deaths to homicides isn't relevant beyond the fact that it is premature death.

Some Guy on the Innernets said...

The doofuses just never stop. I looked in on the Salsa Fargo thread at MTBR (approximately four billion posts and counting) over the weekend, since I hadn't been there in months, and I actually own two Fargos. Great bikes. Some poor prospective Fargo owner was being told by several doofuses that his idea of setting one up with a flat bar was not a good one, for several half baked "reasons." A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, as they say.

One of my Fargos is set up pretty much the way it came, with drop bars and mechanical disc brakes. The other one is a rigid mountain bike with giant tires and a 17 degree flat bar and some olde fashioned bar ends. I had no idea this was wrong! Seems the geometry is all wrong for a flat bar (according to some nitwits), and I'm lucky to still be alive after riding that death trap.

They are called Freds for good reason.

Onelesslimb said...

A Brazilian is getting your arm pulled out?

McFly said...

A buddy was hammering me on technical bike info the other day after a ride and my brother finally stepped in and said "He don't really get into numbers he just kind of does what works."

Yep.

Marcel Da Chump said...

Journalistically biased Statistically flawed

Buffalo Bill said...

First of all, that ebike monstrosity looks to weigh at least 100 lbs.
Which is a good thing since if you lock it to the end of one of those green racks, the lowlifes just have to remove one bolt in order to remove your bike and carry it away. In which case, a nice heavy bike would be a (small) deterrent.

haazeds 7777 -- ? I wish I did.

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 1:49pm,

Which fad is that, not paying one of Mike Sinyard's flying monkeys to measure my scranus for the latest Body Geometry componentry?

If you think that's a 150mm stem I'm a worse photographer than I thought.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

McFly said...

25c is the new black.

Buffalo Bill said...

According to my carefully calibrated ocular sensing organ, that stem is 130mm. I imagine it rides very predictably.

rdenoff 1999 -- no I probably don't

Julia Childs said...

Not to pick nits, but savory is not a synonym of sweet.

Let's review. There are five tastes:

sweet
sour
bitter
salty

...and let's not forget umami.

Esteemed Commenter DaddoOne said...

That stem is ridiculous, you should Scranusnipple.

wishiwasmerckx said...

How come every time I tell my girlfriend that I am at the tapas bar, she hears the topless bar?

wishiwasmerckx said...

So Jalabert was seriously injured in a training accident.

Retired from pro cycling, took up triathlons, and promptly forgot decades worth of accumulated bike-handling skills.

Hannibal Lechter said...

Babble, lest we judge too harshly, apparently out of guilt and obligation, I understand that he trimmed the fingernails before throwing the arm out of the car window.

Anonymous said...

Ms. babble on, nice pictures and video....Oh and nice bike but isn't it over kill even for the mean streets of Vancouver?

wishiwasmerckx said...

As for stem length, it is mainly a function of whether you are short-waisted or long-wasited. Too short of a stem binds and crowds the diaphragm, impeding efficient breathing. Going longer also normally flattens out the back, resulting in a more aero profile. When in doubt, go longer.

Anonymous said...

I like your stem, sweety.

babble on said...

Wildcat... please allow me my fantasy of imagining your stem is off the charts.

Anonymous said...

Wildcat, anon 1:49.

'90's bike fashion was all about the long boner stem.
http://www.mariocipollini.eu/sites/default/files/styles/media_gallery_large/public/cipollini%20(31).JPG

http://www.pedalroom.com/p/cannondale-r900-2859_1.jpg

Bikes before and since, have gone with the better handling longer toptube/shorter stem combo. Less toe overlap, less goofy tiller effect, more stable, even with tighter angles.
Long stems are worse in every regard. The fact that you paid extra for this setup says something. I'm not sure what, but it says something.

Anonymous said...

Taking up triathalons is like taking up heroin. Nothing else matters, skills and knowledge goes out the window.

rural 14 said...

ant 2nd!
Mofo - "oh your stem is too long"
Who's agonna win the race?
What's the race anyway?
Oh yeah - the one who has had the most fun for the most time wins.
I've had lots of maniacs tell me this or that, and meanwhile I've been loving riding bikes for 45 years now...one's body changes, one figures it out. Sure the bike shop galoots can drop me sometimes, but sometimes I can drop them too. And when I find Fred or whomever riding on a dirt road by mistake on their 23mm tires and crabon ass peg, I slow down and am friendly-ish...not telling them "oh you need the special dirt road bike with the right stem". Ride what you have and enjoy it.
And - PS - what a big stem you have! is that a euphemism?
How can i prove i'm not a robot?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, it says something. The trouble with snobby is that he doesn't know when to shut up.

crosspalms said...

The ancient Greeks said your stem shouldn't be longer than your forearm or shorter than your attention span. I think we should heed them.

McFly said...

Was the left-side-chainring-up-to-little-cog some sort of electrical generator on the CBR Schwinnhundred?

Or was it a sausage grinder?

Speculations welcome....

McFly said...

Was the left-side-chainring-up-to-little-cog some sort of electrical generator on the CBR Schwinnhundred?

Or was it a sausage grinder?

Speculations welcome....

rural 14 said...

yeah, it says it's a nice bike that this WCRM seems to like; it works for him; enough already.

Straight forks - now theres a bad idea FOR ME because I don't like 'em. Can I REALLY tell the difference between a straight fork and a Jobst Brandian / Jan Heine-ian curved fork? Who the fork cares? That Colnago with the straight fork rides great, though not on dirt; and my old Cinelli with the giant clearances that the bike Freds called a station wagon...and too big (and then too small for me) also rides just fine.

Not to get all tweedishly Peterson-like, but just fucking ride! Oh, your stem is too long. Don't break a nail either.

I am a robot.

Anonymous said...

My stem was too long so I switched to a Brompton: shrivelled up nicely.

Frilly Chick said...

Snobbie, I did have one of Sinyard's flying monkeys do my bike fit. And in a month and a half, I had to have them do it again. The funny thing is it really was my rear end.

Anonymous said...

stem too long? a custom bike isn't the answer. what you need is SURGERY! just a little off the forearm & you're good to go.

besides, messing with seat angles is a zero sum game. and changing head tube angle messes with your toe clearance (and/or your rake).

i think mark twain said it best: "a man's stem should be just long enough to reach from his steerer tube to his bar clamp." which sounds a little dirty, now tht i think about it.

Anonymous said...

I just took a hit of LSVC and now I can hear colors.

ge said...

Oh enough about the stems already. Everyone knows that a guy who rocks a long stem is compensating for a shortcoming in the top tube department. I know lots of people with short top tubes that have gone on to lead happy and productive lives.

Besides, short stems aren't vertically compliant.

ChainWhipped said...

Don't change your stem - not that you would. The fact that your bike is fitted as is shows that you're thinking ahead. The 120-130mm stem you're riding now can easily be shortened to accommodate a rider's needs as we all become middle-aged.

Plenty of bikes look wrong without their rider upon them. Cycling historians (read: Elder-Freds) tell me that Fausto Coppi looked ridiculous and awkward until he began to turn the pedals. Such is the way of a purposed structure.

Frilly Chick said...

Babbs, those boots are fierce! I wore a 4" heel, no platform, on my date Friday. What? Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.

Anyhoo, got the desired effect in a few head to toe glances, however I was praying to Lob not to let me fall flat on my face! I can't even imagine trying to ride a bike in those bad boys.

babble on said...

Anon@ 2:35 - Thank you! Do you think so? Guess it depends on your definition of overkill....

The streets here aren't mean enough that people have driven off with any of my body parts, at least not yet...
and the frankenbike gets me from a to b, rain or shine, wind or snow.

Um, and it does blow here. It's going to be blowing long and hard tomorrow, and it's going to be mighty wet in these parts too.
Personally, I love a long stem...

What were we talking about?



mikeweb said...

I've heard it said that it's not the length of the stem but the diameter that matters.

babble on said...

Thanks, Frilly! It's the platform that complicates things: otherwise, it really doesn't matter how high the heel is, since most of us ride with the pedal under the ball of our foot.

It's fun the attention riding in heels garners, isn't it? Next time, beautiful girl, take pictures!! You know how much we like to share around here.

(And honey? I'd date you in a New York second if I were a guy.)

babble on said...

length... diameter... it all adds up to a ton of fun if you stick it in the right hole

Anonymous said...

I've listened to some of the dumbest people ever to obsess over bikes talk about stems in the LBS for more time than I will ever hope to get back. If you are about to tell someone else what will work for their cockpit, do everyone a favor and tell them you are stupid, pushy, and clueless. This way, you will actually be providing the poor person who has to listen to you with useful information.

bikesgonewild said...

...somewhere hidden away in a 'leftover parts' box, i've got a old 165mm titanium stem custom made for me by sandvik...nice 'girth' too...

...that thing is just a little shorter than my, ummm, attention span...

Jan! said...

"TIT, I.E.: WC/SC": what kind of a name for an Interna-Torque system is that?!

Also, to be linguisticallly correct and historically compliant, the "slant parallogram" blog was called "slant parallelogram" before: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cZbRJuwk7FEJ:bluetrident.tumblr.com/post/35786964854/it-is-a-hot-humid-july-day-in-the-small-village+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk (That's according to Google's cache from a month ago.)

Anonymous said...

Ms Babble on, we were talking about your bike that would rival the tank you had in a previous picture. I see your point, unstoppable! You were talking about wetness and long stems. Lovely ladies riding bicycles is always a pleasant sight, but I will never be able to look at a lady riding a bike the same way ever again.

Anonymous said...

"The fact that drivers are killing as many pedestrians in three years as murderers are killing in one is actually pretty horrifying"

Funny enough, that's the title of the keynote address at this year's meeting of the local chapter of the International Brotherhood of Murderers and Manslaughterers.

299e said...

I like big stems, I can not lie. No other blogger can deny.

Anonymous said...

Short stem = wanker.

babble on said...

BGW - so you're familiar with the seven inch ride, then?

Frilly Chick said...

If you were a guy, we'd make a cute couple, I have no doubt.

bikesgonewild said...

...babble, luv...let's just say we could have a deep conversation about a lotta stuff including riding...

...captcha this - strSeed 5620...honest...

bikesgonewild said...

...gee, for SOME reason, this conversation about 'stem length' reminds me of the old joke...

...two guys are standing in the dark, peeing off a bridge after a couple a' beers...
...first guy tryin' to brag sez - "...damn, that water's cold !!!..."...
...second guys pauses, then casually sez - "...ya...& deep too..."...

Anonymous said...

Yay! For a while the comments were bike-related!
But now it's sexy-time again, also yay!

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 1:49pm,

You must be very popular on the forums.

As a member of the small endowment club I always follow the rule of thumb to multiply the size of your endowment by 10 in order to arrive at stem length. Never understood it completely--something about ballast--but it seems to work.

Rest assured my front wheel does not overlap with my toe or any other inadequate body part.

--wildcat rock machine (all lower caps)

RayG said...

"Sweet"? I prefer the term 'battery acid'.

crosspalms said...

speaking of goofy tiller effect

JB said...

24 mm tires are the new 650b.

wishiwasmerckx said...

25's? Riding around on balloons now, are we?

Because everybody else was going wider, I put a 19mm Continental sew-up on my high-flanged, campy-hubbed, tied and soldered track wheel.

Anonymous said...

Look, fair enough about your set-up, Snobby, but you haven't addressed my namesake's concerns about your "scranus ... jutting out".

It's your civic duty to set up your bike with thoughts of the impact your stem will have on decent society.

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 6:02pm,

I'd address it if I knew what he was talking about. How does your scranus even jut out?

Unless you're riding a recumbent, then I can visualize it.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:38, you're such an attention whore. Get over yourself already.

8229 sesslev

Grump said...

Snobby, you should have run out and ordered a custom crabon frame to fit your abbynormal body. You coulda ordered a 1 cm longer top tube, so that your stem coulda been 1 cm shorter.
All in all, I give the bike a B+.
.
.

Nonplussed Squirrel said...

Didn't have my bowl of EPO this morning and the result is 106th place.

Anonymous said...

Snobster: Enough about your road bike already. Draw back your curtain of secrecy and give us the juicy details about your folder.

Squirrel in Heat said...

A slow squirrel. just what daddy ordered.

Ooh, spoke-capitated. Didn't see that coming. I hate when that happens.

White Smoke Yet? said...

Jimserection @ 136: "Drunk driver hit a guy on a motorcycle, was dragged out of his car and killed by the concerned townsfolk. No one was arrested, that is how it goes in Brasil."

If it had happened in Oakland the press photographers cameras would have been stolen when they arrived too.

excitable & dorky said...

FOLDING BIKES!

FOLDING BIKES!

FOLDING BIKES!

FOLDING BIKES!

FOLDING BIKES!

FOLDING BIKES!

7016 notolid

Anonymous said...

To the Snoberino:
FOL-DER! FOL-DER! FOL-DER!

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

Speaking of scranii and recumbents even though when I ride bent and don't need a chamois to cushion my scranus I still wear my bikeen shorts instead of baggy shorts so a bee can't fly up my pant leg and sting me in the scranus.

Anonymous said...

C'mon just tell us the length and be done with it... I have a 120 -10 and I like it. see, it is easy.

Anonymous said...

Stretched out on the long stem, like a pole dancer with her booty waving in the air. Substitute scranus for booty in Wildcat's case. I think that's what Anon meant. Hey, whatever turns you on. I'm not judging.

Boob Toob Roob said...

Gosh,you're an unlikely bunch...

Anonymous said...

That Awesomely cool bike at the end (is it a two wheel drive?) and you guys go on about stems? Have your girlfriend check your scranus.

Anonymous said...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/firstflightbikes/Parts/STEMS.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f375/mrjustin007/P8310155.jpg

http://www.firstflightbikes.com/Lstem113.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l2iasid3INY/Ty6ketXq4LI/AAAAAAAAT2E/73Pj3vzQfFo/s400/cinart4.jpg

Anonymous said...

Mr. Bike Snob, did you notice how the ladies discussion of stem length was racy (pun intended) and the guy’s was more technical (boring). Some of us believe bikes are beautiful and riding is fun. Ms. Babble on turned a “Fred” moment into something very picturesque with her picture “trusty bike bum.” I take pictures while my wife and I ride and my wife is my favorite subject. And like you I take pictures of bikes, especially my Townie. The bottom line: “Fredliness” looms in all of us, ready to suck the joy of riding right out of us. And with all the “Fredly” techno babble, we can loose sight of the big "bicycling cycling" picture. PS you parried all the geek talk very nicely!

Anonymous said...


I'm a dad, an old fuddy duddy, ride long stems (well 120mm).

And just last week I was spouting off that a co-worker didn't need a new bike, he needed 25mm tires ---- expensive ones with high threadcount.

Instead he spent $3k on a Wilier. Still hase a jarring ride.

Anonymous said...

Clearly Philippe Gilberts mechanics know nothing about setting up bikes either. Who new?

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/03/gallery/gallery-philippe-gilberts-bmc-teammachine-slr01_277827

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