However, some people are willing to pay for the perception that their bike is the best, and since they can't actually prove this is true themselves because they're not capable of riding fast enough to make those incremental improvements count, they instead rely on the bike's manufacturer to create marketing campaigns that prove it for them. As such, these marketing campaigns must be effective and reliable; really, they've got to be even more effective and reliable than the bicycles themselves. In practice, it's far more important to create a "bulletproof" marketing campaign than it is to create a bulletproof bike.
Recently, a reader forwarded me a pair of new videos from the Canadian bicycle company Guru. Every so often, you see a genuine advancement in bicycle technology, such as clipless pedals, integrated shifting, and, in the world of offroad riding, the "gravity bong." Well, I'm not sure Guru have advanced bicycle technology any further, though these videos show they've certainly taken bicycle marketing in a bold and revolutionary new direction. This one is for the Crono 2.0 tri bike:
While clipless pedals changed cycling in many ways, the mechanics behind them were not new, since they'd already been employed for quite some time in the form of ski bindings. The big leap was applying them to bicycle pedals. Similarly, the "self-congratulatory windbags sitting around a dinner table" format is nothing new either, since Jon Favreau has employed it for years with the TV show "Dinner For Five:"
What Guru have managed to accomplish though is: 1) adapt the format to bicycle marketing; and 2) completely strip it of interesting people and entertaining conversations. This is quite daring. A talk show set in a restaurant makes sense, since entertainers often work in such environments and share ideas over food and drink. Therefore, watching them interact in such a setting feels natural and informal. However, when Guru depicts their principals at a dinner table drinking wine and talking about how wonderful they are, it gives the impression that: 1) the act of bicycle design is less like engineering and more like wedding planning; and 2) that when you buy a Guru, you're not jut paying for top-notch technology and materials. You're also paying for lavish meals and the filming of those lavish meals.
What Guru have managed to accomplish though is: 1) adapt the format to bicycle marketing; and 2) completely strip it of interesting people and entertaining conversations. This is quite daring. A talk show set in a restaurant makes sense, since entertainers often work in such environments and share ideas over food and drink. Therefore, watching them interact in such a setting feels natural and informal. However, when Guru depicts their principals at a dinner table drinking wine and talking about how wonderful they are, it gives the impression that: 1) the act of bicycle design is less like engineering and more like wedding planning; and 2) that when you buy a Guru, you're not jut paying for top-notch technology and materials. You're also paying for lavish meals and the filming of those lavish meals.
Don't get me wrong--when it came to filming the meal Guru held nothing back, and I'm convinced that this meal and the conversation that took place during it were both state-of-the-art. Here's one incredible moment where the filmmakers actually illustrate the aerodynamic properties of the BS emanating from the designer's mouth:
I also learned something, which is that the "character" of a bicycle is apparently in the headtube. This surprised me, since I had previously thought a bicycle was defined by the "beefiness" of its bottom bracket. I suppose ideally you want both of those things, and that the perfect bicycle has both a beefy bottom bracket and a charismatic headtube. Also, at four minutes and 29 seconds one of the owners utters the phrase, "The pregnant word would be 'symbiosis:'"
As somebody who enjoys the written word (as opposed to the puffed word, which I'm not all that crazy about), I've come across a few wonderfully mellifluous phrases over the years. Just a few of these include: "All You Haters Suck My Balls;" "Don't Put Anything In My Flower Box;" and of course my all-time favorite, "Your money's no good here at Chili's--that second order of fajitas is on the house." So I like to think I know a catchy phrase when I hear one, and to me "The pregnant word would be 'symbiosis'" is as delightful as any ever penned by Shakespeare or stuck to a deep section rim with adhesive vinyl letters. Surely, it's as succulent as any dish that was served to them at that restaurant--which, if you're unfamiliar with Canadian cuisine, is the world's fanciest Tim Hortons. Speaking of class, nothing says "class" like a thumb ring, as you can see from this still in which the wearer mimes the act of helping a pregnant symbiosis deliver a healthy Guru:
I have a recurring nightmare in which I'm fixing a flat on a cold and rainy night and an Acura TSX comes to a stop beside me. As I turn to it a tinted window rolls down and the sound of techno music grows louder. I can't see the driver, but a hand with a thumb ring extends from the blackness and beckons me. Then, a Canadian accent says, "Why don't you come in here where it's warm, eh?" I awake in terror. I don't know what it means, but I'm pretty sure this guy is the figure from my dreams.
You wouldn't think Guru could possibly produce a second video to rival this one, but amazingly they do. Moreover, it's even more brazen, and they start off by explaining that light frames are just marketing tools--so, naturally, they've just made the world's lightest frame:
In fairness to Guru, though, a bike company that actually manufactures what it designs is increasingly rare. In fact, it's so rare that companies like Guru can now use it as a selling point, just like riding a track bike on an actual track is so rare that velodrome races must now be specified as "fixed only." Certainly, though, Guru are justified in touting their process since doing things in-house probably does afford them a lot more control, whereas sending designs off to some factory requires trusting matters to a bunch of disembodied hands. Speaking of disembodied hands and aerodynamic bicycles, I love a good disembodied hand (and I'm not talking about "stranger" administration), so I was pleased when a reader sent me this eBay listing:
The best disembodied hands are the ones that come from on high, because they suggest divine intervention:
But as much as I delight in eBay listings and makeshift bike support techniques, it's not always enough to cleanse my palate after both a literal and figurative meal of road and tri bike marketing as seen in the Guru videos. After sitting around a table for a long time sipping wine, picking at tiny servings of expensive food, and listening to people hold forth and sermonize, sometimes all you want to do is sit on the couch with a pizza and a beer and watch reruns of "Three's Company." Here's the marketing equivalent of that dining scenario (which I saw on Busted Carbon, which is sort of the bike porn equivalent of S&M), and while I'm not sure how scientific it is, it's certainly lacking in pretense:
135 comments:
first?
2nd?
3rd?
3rd
and now I'll go read
whaddya know?
Nice job curating the words today
guru should consider birth control
Top ten I hope
where the hell is everyone? still thinking about frilly's "girls"?
Well, off to have a three-way with smarm, eh?
the disembodied hand is also disarmed. sorry.
the fork maintains its integrity
Chad, Missed it yesterday No Podium
the result of the hammer test was surprising though, no?
Pack fill!
Is that a worsted wool blazer over a cotton T-shirt? Gah. First of all, Miami Vice went off the air decades ago. Second, even a redneck like me knows you only wear linen, silk or cotton jackets over a T-shirt. How much you wanna bet he has on jeans and white socks?
Meanwhile, the idea of a carbon bong has merit. I wonder who we could approach to make them? How about the newly-unemployed Cannondale framemakers? Or the guys at Parlee - then you could charge 4X its actual worth.
so late.. so so late... but I was late because today I was forced to take my local mass-transit -- disabled trains and signal problems = a commute that took 45min. longer to get to the blog than if I were to have just drafted behind Anon12:27
At least it serves to remind me why I, and incentivize me to, ride my bike.
MARK ETNG
So that one Guru guy only speaks French, and the others only speak English, yet they hold a conversation seamlessly. It's just like Star Wars!
Which reminds me--the engineer with the heavy accent--I recognize that voice!
I wonder when the last time Blazer-wearer was on a bike.
Watching that video and realizing that so much of the bicycle industry is talk like that - I got sick a little.
I wear a ring on my middle finger because--after cycling all summer, the ring falls off my ring finger and my well-tailored clothes fall off my formerly fat ass. And I did this riding a 12 year old steel bike at an avg speed of not much more than %# !/@ mph. And the best part, it was fun.
Bikes, just as PCs, have a performance that is far superior than the needs, hability or capacity of their users (in competitive cycling it´s necessary to define minimum wheight on bikes). So all it´s left is marketing. And every five years or so a notable improvement will come about.
Lawyer:
Fun? FUN?? I thought cycling was serious business
I kid, we have fun... now what was my wattage!?
KRBN FIBR
damn peddle issues
Flow fields: "the flow stays together all the way back."
"self-congratulatory windbags sitting around a dinner table"
format includes omage to "my dinner with andre" gesticulation
...and, Bobby Pizzazz, co-founder and smirky dude.
FNGR BANG
It's about me.
Two poeple already beat me to the "blazer over t-shirt" comment. I guess that particular vein of ore has already been pretty much mined out before I even opened my browser.
Oh, well.
On my commute in this morning, I thought I saw the Snob wakeboarding on the Big Skanky. Anybody else see that?
Ha, more like wedding planning!
Classic
Frenchman at the table and he still mispronounced "homage."
And as far as carbon forks go, I'd be more impressed if the fork was mounted and it was taking hits that would stress the fork/steerer tube juncture.
Posting "first" could be the stupidest thing I have ever seen.
Anybody else find it suspiciously familiar, the way Snobby has been talking about magic mushrooms growing on cow dung, and experiencing blissful oneness with nature? Could it be Bill Hicks faked his own death and has been peacefully riding bikes for the last 15 years? At least, until moving to New York a few years ago brought back the old vitriol, necessitating a creative, but anonymous, outlet?
I'm going to go load Snob's NPR interview into ProTools and play it backwards to see if I can find any clues.
bike snob is NOT bill hicks
trust me
i know bill hicks AND bike snob
they are both cool d00ds
Ever notice how you just never see BikesnobNYC and Bill Hicks in the same photo? Makes you think, huh?
Number one rule of bike marketing? Make the name of the bike legible!
What the hell kind of frame does Cadel Evans ride anyway?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/76th-uci-road-world-championships-cm/stages/stage-6/photos/89495
Between these bozos and Cervelo, I wish Canadian cycling was still CCM and Supercycle, with a side of Velosport and Sekine. Me, I totally, completely ignore any innovation. I don't have a prominent, stove-pipe-sized headtube, and my bottom bracket would have been perfectly at home on a 1960's road bike.
I ride a Guru tri bike. OK not the sexy chrono but a run of the mill carbonio tri. I am old, I am slow and I know that while I can't change the first, getting faster will entail training harder, not a faster bike. The dudes said it themselves, the biggest source of drag is the rider. The second biggest drag is pretentious bike companies.
The Niner keeps its integrity
Couldn't possibly be thumb and pinky-fingerbang jewelry. WTF Canadians, your fashion is perpetually 5 years behind the US (which is 5 years behind Europe.)
Best line in the Guru video- (remember, they're talking about a time trial bike) "This bike is for athletes."
1st anon 1:42 response:
There are stupider things. Just go for a bike ride and you will see many of them.
As for the cuisine -- Anglophone Canadian may be Tim Horton's, but the French cuisine in Montreal is way, way better.
I also have a Guru, by the way -- it's very nice, and it was actually made on this continent!
Anon 1:48
Tell me more about Sekine. Mine has a rhinestone studded headtube badge that smells like Canadian cheese.
niner hammer-guy rulz
Don't forget Sportek bicycles. Mine even says "made in Canada" on it. I found it in the garbage.
CANA DIAN
Videos: they are even funnier if you watch them without sound b/c all it is is a bunch of guys nodding in agreement with each other.
boy howdy is that what you city folk look like without your tinned winders
I believe you really meant to say.
"you should not hit it with a hammer, and you could use it to get stoned, if properly modified and beefy enough."
I own a TSX...Im very offended.
I spent my formative years in Canada and once I'd moved to the States and was asked to name a Canadian national food all I could come up with was poached eggs on tinned spaghetti on toast. My mouth's watering just thinking of it...
Ordinarily, I'd think it was weird to see a guy with a hammer advising folks to inspect their equipment after self abuse.
But hey, it's Wednesday.
So if gumby sits sideways facing left he'll win ... thanks for clearing that up.
What's with all the hatin' on Guru?
That's just a marketing department's version of "sessioning." They will follow it up with T-Shirts, caps, and Books On Tape of the session.
All you haters can suck my Wharton MBA.
"French cuisine in Montreal"
-Kinda like saying Chinese food in China
BILL HIX!
They have wine at the fanciest Tim Horton's? WHERE IS IT? TELL ME! Is it in Vancouver, or Toronto? Please answer while I go find my thumb ring... I'm going OUT tonight, eh! Maybe I'll hook up with a Timmie's Girl and end up with a symbiotic pregancy situation!
It's the bicycle equivalent of Un Dîner de Cons
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119038/
Wait, I didn't watch videos, just read the commentary. MONTREAL, here I come...
"French cuisine in Montreal"
-Kinda like saying Chinese food in China
Not really. Most eat like lumberjacks in Montreal and Quebec.
Even O.C. weighs in on the Guru tri bike.
Sort of. Mostly he just rocks out!!!
The pregnant word is 'abortion'.
Quebec cooking? Poutine italienne is probably the worst thing in the world.
Udder,
what do French lumberjacks eat?
I'm sure they eat french food. What do Chinese lumberjacks eat?
scrambled eggs and dog bacon
Molson Ice and Ketchup Lays
So was the Niner video trying to dispell a belief about carbon not being able to survive impacts or re-enforce that metal shows damage more readily while carbon... Uhh gives you the chance to sell before hidden structural fails like an mavic R-sys.
I have no knuck tats for Cannuck Stranger. Help.
Perhaps you meant to say the following:
Bicycles are simple machines, and the significance of incremental improvements that are made to them every year is both debatable and relative.
I think the Niner fork guy may be a friend of Pontius Pilate.
"Sthamson the Sthaggisea Sthtrangler...Sthilas the Assthyrian Assthasthin...stheveral sthaditiousth sthcribes from Stheastherea..."
Where is old Pontius, by the way?
yeah, anon 2:44, i was thinking the same thing...he clearly recommends not riding either, so what the hell does it matter if one doesn't actually show damage. i bet if you kept a camera on it long enough it would find a way to snap
Anonymous wrote: what do French lumberjacks eat?
1) People from Quebec or Montreal are not French, they're Canadians.
2) As stated above, they eat stuff like Poutine (french fries in sweet, sickly gravy with cheese curds). Other variations include meat sauce, BBQ sauce, sausage, etc.
As for Chinese lumberjacks, I'm not sure what they eat.
...don't kid yerselves...
...let's not miss guru's obvious marketing brilliance just because they've it palped it in pretension...
...cervelo was originally two canuck geeks who sold their concept well enough that they're now drinking the high end cuvee'...
...swiss financing, saxo bank team, le tour...hell, life couldn't be more grand...
...guru guys said "merde', we need a strategy...we film our regular friday evening expensive dinner...(A)-we get a tax write-off...(B)- we sell the street joes on how cool (read: thoughtfully high tech) we are & (C)- we interest some high end euro finance "cycling" wannabe's, who are smitten w/ our bullmerde' in taking over the reins & who will keep us gainfully employed after the takeover"...
...that, gentlemen, truly is cycling genius...
Thanks for putting up my disembodied hand find....:)
I think the waiter filled the thumb ring guy's wine glass twice...since he wasn't making sense, might as well get him drunker so he can have a good time.
Snobbie, you really do rule! If you ever do sit down to drink wine with those guys be sure to palp wheelbrows, because ... well you know why.
udder,
'1) People from Quebec or Montreal are not French, they're Canadians.'
I don't feel this way, they may even be frencher.
b) Chinese lumberjacks eat the koalas they get from fallen trees.
b) Chinese lumberjacks eat the koalas they get from fallen trees.
I think you mean pandas.
What was that towards the beginning of the first video where they decide to give their bike a "facelift" just for the sake of it?
udder,
no, you are mistaken. Pandas don't live up in trees.
It's nice to hear that, while here in the PNW we have sensational stories of "car vs bike", that Guru is taking care of the "Stiffness vs Comfort" issues as alluded too in the second video. Soon a "Docudinner" also know as the "Dookidinner" will take place discussing why a stiff drink is much more comfortable than a stiff neck and how to market that.
Also, let me invite you to my Dookidinner discusson at Chuk -E- Cheese as I describe my companies, GoThru Uranus, new technological advanced concepts of making the bike lighter. We have found that by eliminating the weight and drag forces of the 3rd dimension we can help make the bike lighter and faster for the consumer. Hope to see you there.
keith
why don't you stop talking about docu-dinners and come down here and help figure out this koala/lumberjack problem
thanks for Busted Carbon. nice, but doesn't quite deliver the same pleasure as:
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/
Canada's most popular dish is called 'poutine' sounds like 'pootin' They take a basket of french fries cover them with cheese curds and top it off with brown gravy. That shit is good. They call it 'pootin' because after you eat the cheese curds, fries, gravy, you'll be a pootin mofo.
FORK BONG
Agree: The pregnant word would be 'symbiosis'. This dinner meeting must have taken place on a post-wacky-weed Wednesday.
BALL PEEN
FORK BONG
PNDA KOLA
Anon 1:36 beat me to first calling the dude out on his enunciating the silent "H" in homage. Sounded like he was choking up a chicken bone actually.
1. People from Quebec are "Quebecois" or "Quebeckers". They do not like being called Canadian.
2. They still eat a long of pea soup.
The big questions? Will Guru be able to maintain its cheesey/smary image for as long as say Pinarello?
Speaking of cheese, check out the POV at :42
http://www.pinarello.com/eng/multimedia.php?video=fp3
I believe the correct terminology is frenchier.
I was unable to make it through either of the Guru videos but the guy bashing the forks with a hammer was entertaining.
I think the steel fork would make a better bong since I believe it would be bomb proof while the crabon fiber could explode any moment.
No one does frame bullshit like Canadians...the higher we pile it on, the more the frames sell for.
A crabon Guru frame is $5,000.
Cervelo S3 is so aero, it may not fit some gruppos.
People from Quebec are "Quebecois" or "Quebeckers". They do not like being called Canadian.
They aren't considered Canadian either, we just call then "Les Whiners".
fantz crazz said...
Canada's most popular dish is called 'poutine'
I thought it was called Pamela Anderson.
That's funny, my crabon guru was about $3k. And I talked to the guy who made it!
Btw Cadel Evans this morning on Oz radio re fixies:
"I spose they minimise maintenance, but I don't see the point myself"
burn motherfucker, burn!
Rapha would server better wine.
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101st!
Guru, a Canadian bicycle manufacturer, will be launching their new sub-750g Photon at Interbike next week.
Their first production unit weighed in at 747g (54cm) and the bikes are scheduled to hit retailers in December 2009. In order to hit such a minimal weight while retaining race-worthy stiffness and efficiency, Guru stuck with circular tubes as the base platform, then modified them based on FEA (finite element analysis) to bolster the areas that see the most stress. They used “aerospace grade” HS40 carbon fiber and manufactured the bike in-house to achieve a 70/30 fiber/resin ration.
To keep the strength of the frame, Guru eliminated as many joints as possible, creating a one-piece seattube/bottom bracket shell and using compression molded carbon dropouts. To top it all off, as with any Guru, you can get it customized all the way from the geometry to the carbon layup.
Hit ‘more’ to see another photo of the frame and their totally redesigned Cronos 2.0 triathlon / time trial bicycle…
$4900. and still made in china.
Makes truck balls seem small.
Brown Gravy does not make french fries a gourmet food group.
All canadians should be prevented from manufacturing bikes.
Ask the investors of Specialized.
"I also learned something, which is that the "character" of a bicycle is apparently in the headtube. This surprised me, since I had previously thought a bicycle was defined by the "beefiness" of its bottom bracket."
Well it depends. Some guys are "breast men". Others are more "ass men".
...& here i thought "that the "character" of a bicycle" was the idiot riding it...
...just sayin'...
I think he said, "the pragmatic word would be sybiosis"
At 4 minutes and 29 seconds??? How'd you make it that far? At 1:02 I was quivering, and 2:42 I started puking all over my desk top.
Jeez, what a bunch.
That ring shit is a Canadian thing: "The Order of the Engineer"... suppose to symbolize your pride and unite you in brotherhood with other engineers; kind of a fag thing if you ask me.
More disembodied hands on view at Rapha's L'Eroica Bike Auction.
L'Eroica regulations "stipulate that only road bikes comprising of technology dating before 1987 qualifies [sic] a participant." All the bikes have been built (read, curated) with vintage, factory new frames and have only been ridden at L'Eroica. Information on the hands is not available.
this post and these comments show how NYC/East Coast/American-centric bikesnob and the rest of you are...
sitting around a dinner table and talking about stuff is how folks in other parts of the world do "work." here, in america, unless you are being a serious careerist self-promoting tool by TRYING YOUR BEST TO LOOK like a serious careerist self-promoting tool, then you're not serious enough... IE, if you're sitting around a table talking about stuff, you're a windbag, because you're not out there being savvy enough to LOOK LIKE a serious careerist self-promoting tool...
if you don't get it, just wrap yourself in an american flag and a quilt made of dollar bills and stand in the mirror for a little while...
Anonymous at 9:30:
I think you completely miss the point that BS (and others too) makes about the Guru info videos.
Go back, read again, watch again, and maybe you'll get it. And maybe it will even be funny.
Stupid Name 5:58
$4900. and still made in china.
uhhh, no, it's not. They're all made in Montreal, by people who do honest work for a paycheck.
Y'know, this whole thing makes me kind of sad. I have a gorgeous new Guru, which is beautiful and rides like a dream, and since I am no longer young I will probably ride it until I'm not able to ride any more. Somehow the pretentiousness of their video, and BSNYC's reaction, just makes me ... well, just kind of sad.
That Niner video does a really nice job of demonstrating that if one whacks an unloaded Niner fork several times with a hammer, it does not explode like, say, one of those billet forks machined from a single block of river ice, or a fork made by an artisan glass blower. The funny part is that steel fork is probably still usable, and may even have a reasonably long fatigue life. It's just ugly now.
Mr. Thumb ring wouldnot be listening to techno ...
Whoa, I had the strangest dream last night.
I dreamt I was stuck at a dinner meeting at the Wendy's outside Gstaad with Anon 9:30 and the design team from Rapha.
They were very slowly explaining in European accents their new line of two piece cycling wear featuring a jersey made from an American flag and a cape made from a quilt of dollar bills.
The design team from Primal was at the next table eavesdropping until Anon 9:30 started scolding them mercilessly.
Note to self: no more jalapeno poppers before bed time.
Given the, er, language barrier, I think the thumb ring was the result of the wearer 'earing, somewan mention 'ee deegs some chics' TONGUE RING, as "chics deeg THUMB RINGS."
Me, I'm still awestruck by Snobby's use use of, "Contra-la-Mantra," in the title.
Anon 10:35.
I believe you are wrong, do not confuse designed, and built.
What number (quantity) would be the critical factor between "custom made" and "production"?
I do not own Guru, and I am sure it is a fine bike.
Sorry for badmouthing something I have not tried, but are they offering something that exists at a fraction of the cost, and their justification just seems pretentious.
Sorry for making you sad, I am no sad.
Anon 10:35
Just peel off the stickers or cover them with tape, then no one will know you bought a Guru.
no se apoye contre la mantra
almost forgot! YAY another excellent
Weednesday post!!
The character on the bike is wherever I have it custom painted. Usually it's Suessian in nature and placed surreptitiously inside the custom non-curved fork for the utmost in pretentiousness.
An ultralight, aerodynamic custom crabon frame makes all the difference hauling around my beer gut. Feels like I'm just holding handlebars when out terrorizing families walking on my local rails-to-trails path. Just the sight of that custom frame lets people know who they're dealing with.
not the kind of bong we probably had in mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIq469VGAwo
$4900. and still made in china.
That's funny, his crabon guru was about $3k. And he talked to the guy who made it!
Unless Montreal has now separated to China (please), Gurus are made in Quebec.
Guru frames are nothing more than a ploy to suck money from cycling wannabees who feel that they must ride a “boutique” bike in order to have an identity. When exploring new frame options in 2005 , I did attempt to contact Guru to ask specific questions regarding geometry and responsiveness. At the time there were no contact links on their webpage and even the local rep failed to return my call. Trek on the other hand, provided an almost instantaneous response to an email to be follow by a call from a knowledgeable representative who answered my questions.
Needless to say I am still on my Trek, Madonne 5.9 and a very happy camper.
Talk to a guy who has had a problem with any other bike and see what response they have received from the manufacturer.
Anyone notice that in the final shot of the niner video where they compare the damage on the steel fork vs. the carbon one that they show the brake side leg of the steel fork for comparison? Yup, that is not the side that he hits in the video. No after the video cuts, he wails on the other side with more hits than shown in the film and then presents it as if it is the same damage caused while the camera was rolling. What a scam.
OMG, it's genius, and so are you Bike Snob! Thanks for a belly laugh when I thought nothing could make me laugh today.
Down Under, we call those Chinese snacks 'Drop Bears".
whore
Niner video was a bit misleading.
Carbon fiber composite is usually made up of layers. Generally when you hit it, it does not dent on the outside, rather cracks form between the many layers inside.
That's the tricky part about composites. Companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for equipment to find cracks/defects INSIDE the composite.
I know half of the guys on that video. By the way, there is a BSNY in Montreal who claims to have invented the word salmon...
In any case, they make nice bikes. I do not own one. Some of these guys are idiots, the guru shop in montreal is true eye candy and most marketing is handled by the portugese italian lookin guy who mums 3 words. These guys are hands on, they are small and move swiftly. I agree this video s a total piece of shit, they went where they shouldn't have.
This being said, guru sales line up some great partners such as bonk and edge wheels, these are products that have similar DNA (fuck I hate that word as bad as Curated).
Another point I want to mention, these guys went to do this film in a shithole restaurant called yoyo hat has been around for 20 years, its a BYOW restaurant so they really saved there. I am sure the bike mechanic is doing the filming...
Finally, Poutine is nothing Canadian, its quebecois, it was imported in Toronto and Vancouver by the likes of Martin Picard and other great local chefs that guys like Anthony Bourdain swear by.
As you can see, the english speaking folks dress like shit and the french canadians ones are dressless or have shop clothes. Let's stop right here, I beg anyone on the eastern seaboard to tell me that Montrealers do have the hottest women-men in North America, Montreal is one of the biggest detinatination for fat amercians to go to and people watch in summer time. Sorry but true, the only place they will dare go because they can ear french words without fearing a Parisian assholes maing fun of them and still order thei mcchiken in english. Here are a few facts, most of the foie gras and raw milk cheese that you will eat in Chicago or San Francisco come from my backyard... there is no other low cost high end restarant scene like in Montreal.
Now about guru, you fucked up, fuckers. Shame.
These videos taste of MBAs obtained at McGill. This is the shit they learn, of course most them forgot the ost important thing, riding and the ridders.
I'm sure those lovely aerodynamic frames will be very useful once we all start living in wind tunnels.
On the subject of 'shoaling' - here in lovely London (UK) lots of traffic light regulated crossings have special bike only refuges. These allow cyclists to shoal the cars and gets them neatly lined up for a racing start when the lights change. However, many riders here take shoaling to its logical conclusion and entirely ignore red lights.
re: -dean - I used to work with the middle-finger ring wearer - trust me, he's not been on a bike in a long time....wow, this is classic!!
............Nice..^_^v................
proses pencegahan sebagai Obat alat vital sakit ini juga perlu dibantu dari orang-orang yang ahli di dalamnya sehingga pencegahan tersebut efektif dan bisa sesuai dengan sasaran, silahkan baca selengkapnya . Penyakit kanker payudara bisa disembuhkan jika ditangani sejak dini dengan Obat herbal kanker payudara . Anda harus mengetahui gejala-gejala kanker payudara agar anda dapat mengobatinya sebelum terlambat silahkan baca selengkapnya . Tapi jika anda sudah terlanjur terkena penyakit ini, maka pengobatan yang harus dilakukan dengan Obat kutil di alat vital , lebih lengkapnya silahkan baca selengkapnya . Sebelum membicarakan tentang Obat kutil di daerah alat vital , sebenarnya ada hal lain yang lebih penting dari hal itu, yakni tindakan pencegahan silahkan baca selengkapnya . bila kita melihat lebih jauh dan meneliti beberapa kasus yang ada Obat keluar nanah di kelamin yang paling manjur adalah pencegahan sejak dini, silahkan baca selengkapnya . Dan ternyata ada Obat herbal wasir yang secara alami masih bisa dikonsumsi, silahkan silahkan baca selengkapnya .
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