Monday, January 28, 2013

It's Not The Size Of The Commute, It's What You Do With It That Counts

(Who's the dorky time-traveling Fred who's a sex machine to all the chicks?  [Bret!]  You're damn right.)

Hi!  Welcome to [insert blog name here].  Today's post is pretend-sponsored by Miller's Honey, the world's first all-natural taintally-applied all-in-one energy food and chamois cream!  It's the perfect goop for that "epic" ride--and speaking of epic riding, this past Sunday, the New York Times explored the strange and expensive world of Long Distance Fred Commuting:


If you're excited by lengthy descriptions of Freds sensually donning hundreds of dollars of technical garments then read on:

Having sheathed his legs in NASA-worthy Capo bib shorts — woven from high-tech fibers that compress leg muscles to minimize fatigue — he pulled on a pair of winter cycling tights lined with fleece from the waist to the thighs. Next came over-the-calf Smartwool ski socks under Sidi Genius 5.5 shoes strategically packed with chemical toe warmers. To shield his torso, he wore a wool base layer under an Italian long-sleeve racing jersey, and a windproof vest reinforced in front to block freezing gusts and meshed in the back to vent excess heat. On his head, an Assos Fuguhelm racing cap with vents on top to minimize sweating, and a pair of Oakley Jawbones sunglasses. The final touch: a pair of $19 insulated work gloves, coated with beeswax to make them water resistant.

Fastening his helmet, Mr. Edstrom stepped outside and into early-morning indigo. In a minute he was rolling down the driveway of his snow-covered Cape-style house, his headlights aglow, on a 40-mile journey to his workplace, JPMorgan, at One Chase Manhattan Plaza, a trip he would make entirely on a Zanconato cyclocross bicycle.

That passage was an excerpt from the upcoming erotic novel, "Fifty Shades of Fred," which will be published by Rodale in Spring of this year.

Certainly a 30-mile commute can be a good way to squeeze in those winter base miles, though I'm not sure why you'd elect to do it on a folding bike:

The second query was from Scott Bernstein, an electrophysiologist and assistant professor at New York University School of Medicine, who commutes 30 miles on a collapsible bike from his home in Tarrytown to his office at NYU Langone Medical Center at First Avenue and 34th Street.

“As long as it’s at least 10 degrees, I ride,” Dr. Bernstein said.

I realize that boasting about your temperature threshold is an essential part of Long Distance Fred Commuting, but if I had to commute from Tarrytown to 34th Street and it was 10 degrees outside I'd collapse the shit out of that bike and ride the Metro North instead.  What does he do when it's actually warm outside?  How does he prove himself then?  Does he ride his folding bike while wearing nothing except a Terry bolero like some sort of Naked Matador of Smugness?


(Forwarded to me by a reader.)

Then again, he is a man of science, so he might just mean 10 degrees Celsius, in which case big freaking deal.

Speaking of thresholds, by now you've no doubt seen the "bicycle barometer:"



The bicycle barometer takes data about the weather, the status of the tube lines I use to get to work, and whether my local station is open or shut.

It then reduces all that data down to a single value and displays it on a dial with a bike sign at one end and a tube sign at the other.

Meanwhile, a similarly clever Portland bike commuter has created a "smugness assist" that actually pats you on the back as you ride, and you can see his invention here.  He's also working on a dynamo hub that powers a handlebar-mounted speaker which constantly reminds you of how special you are.  Expect the Kickstarter fundraising campaign soon.

Anyway, I enjoyed the Long Distance Fred Commuting article, and perhaps one day the New York Times will explore an even more ridiculous group of commuters--people who travel to work in Manhattan via car.

Lunatics.

In other New York City-related news, a mass email I received from some guided tour company declares the Brooklyn Bridge to be the 8th most romantic spot in New York City:



If your idea of romance is having "Stay out of the bike lane!" shouted at you by an endless procession of self-important brownstone-dwelling bicycle commuters then by all means, grab the old ball and chain and shuffle on up there.  And if you're wondering what the number one most romantic spot in New York City is, it's apparently the whispering gallery at Grand Central:


As for the most popular romantic utterance in the whispering gallery, it's a tie between "Will you marry me?" and "I have a boner," though if you listen closely you might get to hear Toronto mayors Robs Fords opining about "Orientals:"


The afore-linked article was forwarded to me by a reader, and while I've enjoyed following Fords' exploits over the years I have to admit that I'm totally over them now that Gawker has picked up on them.  In this sense Robs Fords are the fixie bike of shitty mayors, so naturally I will now move on to the cyclocross bike of shitty mayors, whoever that might be.

Of course, any fashion-conscious cyclist knows that cyclocross bikes are also passé.  Indeed, the real bike of the moment is the "fat bike," and here is one that was spotted recently by a reader in Michigan:


Carrying a snow bike on a convertible is like wearing one of those crazy Russian fur hats with a pair of flip flops.  In this case it seems like it would make more sense to use the bike to carry the car.

Lastly, there's apparently a group of people out there who are more dorky than cyclists, and they're called the "preppers:"

It's tempting to think that cyclists would make good preppers, since few modes of transportation are more efficient or less dependent on a functioning infrastructure than the bicycle.  However while this may be true of the bicycles, it is not true of cyclists, and any attempt at post-apocalyptic survival would be doomed by endless debates about appropriate post-nuclear tire pressure or whether disc brakes or rim brakes are better suited to loaded fleeing.

We are so screwed.


132 comments:

mikeweb said...

I'm not a lost Dolphin.

Anonymous said...

KBZ.

Anonymous said...

Foiled. (ZOD)

Anonymous said...

Just trip pin

Rb Frd said...

blo me

d. byrne said...

Panda derived bamboo extract chamois cream for the discerning velo bib 40 mile each way commutee.

Anonymous said...

TOP THING! stormqueen

wishiwasmerckx said...

Top ten!

Anonymous said...

BALLS

Comment deleted said...

I hate to disagree with one of my gurus, but by definition, anyone commuting * 30 freaking miles on a daily basis* is not a Fred.

If ever there were a justified use of high-tech clothing, this is a case.

Fredism, at least in my book, requires unjustifiably expensive equipment or kit. If you actually use the fuck out of said equipment or kit, you are not a Fred.

(Although using a folding bike for this is just plain stupid, and therefore, slightly Fredly.)

theEel said...

weed!

Jimboner said...

You are very, very special.


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BikeSnobNYC said...

Comment deleted,

It's not meant to be taken literally, it refers to any manufacturer of dairy products.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

mikeweb said...

Yes, I'm also surprised that a bicycle, especially a folding one, isn't on the survival list. Though I'm sure that's sort of covered if you have item #36 and use item #9 as a 'convincer'.

leroy said...

Top twenty. Had to wait for the bridge to open.

Comment deleted said...

Oh, blessed are the *cheesemakers*! I get it now.

Paul Bowen said...

Friday: that Dutch lady with the knockers - now that's my idea of a re-cum-babe :)

Bender Bending Rodríguez said...

Bite my shiny metal ass!

CommieCanuck said...

I'd like to see internet seminars by people who commute 40 miles a day in the snow. We'll call it the Fred Talks.

boys on the hoods said...

There can be no arguement. The 650b is the appropriate post-appocalypse wheelsizeway.

Anonymous said...

acid!

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...
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CommieCanuck said...

More Robba quotes:

Gridlock creates pollution. It keeps you away from your families.

- Rob Ford Campaign Video, September 7, 2010

Cyclists are a pain in the ass.

- City council debate on Jarvis Street improvements, May 25, 2009.

The purpose of marathons is to create revenue for charities.

- Campaign Video, February 4th,2010

I admit I’m not a smooth talker, a polished speaker. But a lot of people like that. As soon as you’re a smooth talker, something’s fishy.

- Maclean’s, October 12,2010

I’m a huge fan. Don [Cherry] is exactly what you see is what you get.

-Toronto Star, December 7, 2010

"What I compare bike lanes to is swimming with the sharks. Sooner or later, you're going to get bitten. And every year we have dozens of people that get hit by cars or trucks. Well, no wonder. Roads are built for buses, cars and trucks. Not for people on bikes. And my heart bleeds for them when I hear someone gets killed, but it's their own fault at the end of the day."

"If you're not doing needles and you're not gay, you won't get AIDS, probably."

"Do you want your little wife to go over to Iran and get raped and shot?"

"I don't understand. No. 1, I don't understand a transgender, I don't understand, is it a guy dressed up like a girl or a girl dressed up like a guy? "

Robba, figure it out before you hand over the money.

cristobol de Santa Cruz said...

The snow bike on a convertible is akin also to UGG boots and a Brazilian bikini. It can also be traced to the same logic as the famous mullet (a.k.a hockey cut, schlong etc.), business in front party in the back as well as the mesh jersey and crotchless panties. Looking to the future, it is the same idea as bringing your digital road maps via your kindle to a post apocalypse soiree.

Philly Bicycle Journal said...

Riding imaginary bikes at a car show. The Ultimate Freds.
http://bostonbiker.org/2013/01/26/detroit-dreamcyclers-hit-detroit-auto-show/

Anonymous said...

John Allis, who is anything but a fred (US road champion in 1974, among many other wins), reputedly used to commute 40 miles each way to his job as a hospital administrator - and no doubt at a brisker pace than that Christian Edstrom guy! Allis was also known for always training in full cold-weather clothing (long-sleeved jersey, knickers, etc.), even in hot weather, so the cold-morning prep would have been no big deal for him.

Anonymous said...

The Fredliness is there all right: it hasn't occurred to him to use oh, I don't know, a touring bike with panniers and mudguards.

Anonymous said...

I am a loner dotie. A rebel:

http://www.podiumcycling.com/cycling-jerseys/pee-wee-herman-skinsuit

babble on said...
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McFly said...

Chemical toe warmers?

Get back with me when you pick up some Chemical brain warmers.

Plus the test subjects name is Edstrom...which means he is of Nordic descent and probably comfortable freezing his ass off.

Anonymous said...

I don't know, cycling 40 miles to work in the winter in NYC seems kind of bad ass to me? On the other hand waking up at 5:30AM to do so is questionable.

Cipo said...

Fastening his helmet, Mr. Edstrom stepped outside and into early-morning indigo. After breathing in the cold air and looking off into the distance, he said: screw this shit. From now on it's bed, bong and daytime TV.

Jed said...

Don't knock the fatbike/snowbike until you've ridden one. I test rode one last summer as a joke, and ended up buying it ten minutes later. For me, I was reminded how much fun riding should be. Granted, it sucks on pavement, but it owns the trails. Lots of funny looks too. Oh, did I mention dog walkers, hikers and strollers? Yeah, they get the fuck out the way. Without being asked or ringing a stupid bell. And thats when Im cumming up behind.

McFly said...

Oh wow it only took 33 comments before the Fatbike Defense Strategy reared its'........fathead.

recumbent conspiracy theorist said...

I think babble would look fine in Ugg boots and a brazillian bikini.

Anonymous said...

Folding bike Fred rides the bike while still folded in the summer.

Marcel Da Chump said...

Hedge fund commuting.

Brass Bell said...

Don't call me stupid. Ding.

JB said...

Jed: where was the fatbike "knocked"?

crosspalms said...

Naked matador of smugness. Can I nominate the Nippolini model from Friday to try out for this role?

Anonymous said...

Hey Snob,

I liked your folding bike review in the latest Bicycling™ Magazine.



balls™

brother yam said...

I wonder if Mr. Prepper has ever gone camping...

Roille Figners said...

Dorky as it is, there's something hot about a bolero. How about the Brazilian bikini & bolero look?

DNK said...

That guy's commute is 40 miles one way. 80-mile round trip: he is definitely not a Fred. Even if he dresses like one.

Roille Figners said...

That Old Gray Biddy is like a perennial shrub, ever yielding a bounty of unintentional hilarity. Trying their best to take the "sub" out of every subculture, and then those of us who a) know about it already, and b) therefore realize it's basically bullshit, do laaaaugh everso like the dickens. It's been a while since the last Portland blowjob though. I guess now that there's a satellite office right there in Brooklyn, they've got their own problems to deal with.

PS I can't read the blurry-ass house numbers in these motherhumping captchaz. Are we "proving we're not robots" here, or are we proving we're fucking psychic?

babble on said...

Maaaaaaan, work just keeps getting in the way of commenting!

Cheers, Snob. I feel so much better now... I always thought it was all about the size, and my diddy little commute hardly measures up ...

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Anonymous said...

Preppers will definitely ride 650b.

Comment deleted said...

I've invented a similar device to that bicycle barometer. It amalgamates local weather reports with data from my primary physician and detailed records of my exercise regimen; it then factors in whatever payload I need to carry and asks a few pointed questions to assess my mental state.

Invariably, it produces the readout: YOU SUCK!

Roille Figners said...

Fuck me: Fords are still mayors? WHAT DOES IT TAKE?

Roille Figners said...

Hey Comment deleted - neither of those guys in the Fred article do that trip every day. Both said they do it at least twice a week. Which in Fred talk means "exactly twice a week, sometimes once." So 40 miles, times 2 trips/day, times (let's just say) two round-trips/week, that's 160 miles/week. Convert that into non-woosie-riding-every-day miles, and that's 16 miles each way. NOT SO IMPRESSIVE. And yet it's actually still too goddamn far. Move closer to work. You're wasting your life commuting. Could people be more sensible please?

DB said...

In the winter up here in the Heartland, we just add another layer of Carhartt. If it's too cold or icy we take the day off and take the Ford F-150 to work.

Comment deleted said...

Rollie, I would posit that anyone doing a consistent 16 miles per day is also not-a-Fred.

Also, let us not conflate "dork" with "Fred". There are many commuter dorks who have never given a single thought to whether glasses should go over helmet straps, yet they are not Freds, by virtue of their practical and constant use of the bicycle cycling machine.

cristobol de Santa Cruz said...

Rob Fords sporting Ugg boots, brazilian bikini, bolero and a rainbow boa, driving a Triumph TR-6 with a fat tyre folding recumbent on the back scrounging opium dens looking for a fix. I am NOT a robot!

Comment deleted said...

cristobol, please DO NOT use the words "Rob Fords sporting" together ever again!

Anonymous said...

In Russia, snow bike carries car!!!
- Jakov Smeernoff

jayteepee said...

Where can I get a folding fat bike? Just thinking about one leaves me with a tumescent member.

JB said...

Try to get a 650B tube after the shit hits the fan. LOL. Wait, you were joking maybe? Right?

bikesgonewild said...

...holy shit !!!...i mean WOW...mikeweb wins the podium race & not one 'props'...

...amigo, i've got your back...feel like should toast you with a beer & it's just turning noon...

...but "...lost dolphin..." ???...it's the ravens & the 49ers coming up...

CommieCanuck said...

Rob Fords Sport is running over transit users.

Anonymous said...

There's just so much wrong with the fat bike humping the little car picture. Maybe it's just trying to assert its dominance

Bong Cipo said...


so does an eyetalian bikini wax include moustache removal?

Anonymous said...

average people who bike 4 miles to work is not a story - crazy rich people who bike 30+ miles to work in spandex body suits IS a story (we need a picture of spandex-clad crazy person to ogle at and say "that guy is nuts"). props to nytimes for making it seem like you have to be completely insane to ride a bike.

bikesgonewild said...

..."...Robs Fords are the fixie bike of shitty mayors..."...

...now 'that' made me laugh...

...how my ol' hometown could choose to elect this fat blustering asshat defies common sensibilites ...

...foot in his mouth & head up his ass ALL at the same time & obviously he's still finds room to cram way too much food into his blubbery carcass...

...you are one serious piece of work, robs fords...

cristobol de Santa Cruz said...

Comment Deleted,
Robs Ford bearing, don, put on, clothed, have on, effect? Your right, never again. Please excuse the poor appropriation of colloquialisms, I am deeply contrite.

Anonymous said...

Scranus

Anonymous said...

Pro tip of the day - beeswax on your gloves! Hope it doesn't stick to my white bar tape.

bikesgonewild said...

...anon 3:36pm...mind your own beeswax...

Anonymous said...

Prepper Freaks are just Hoarders with Guns.

Anonymous said...

Maybe his name is Fred Edstrom, or maybe one of those one name people, Fredstrom.

rtyurei 2 This is an eye test

crosspalms said...

Just looked at the Zanconato web site. Handsome bikes, especially if you like the mark of Zorro, but pricy. The cross bike has a helpful bull's-eye decal on the underside of the top tube labeled "shoulder here." Couldn't see if the pedals say "feet here."

Anonymous said...

I looked too. Out of my league I'm sure. It's one of those if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it kind of things. What would I know anyway, just a Fred from Bama myself.

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mikeweb said...

Thanks for the props, bgw.

Also, an explanation of the dolphin comment. Thought Snob might have had something to say about the poor guy...

Anonymous said...

Fatbike by day, Miyata by night.

You oughta try it.

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BikeSnobNYC said...

Mikeweb,

Only that he shouldn't have been using Apple Maps.

--Wildcat Rock Machine

mikeweb said...

Let that be a gruesome lesson to us all.

APPL DETH

wishiwasmerckx said...

Time Magazine's Joel Stein on Lance:

"I interviewed him at the 2000 Olympics, and my first thought was, Jerk...I don't know much about cancer, but I'm pretty sure he gave it to Sheryl Crow."

Anonymous said...

I normally eschew all types of cycling buffoonery but those shoulder coolers are damn useful here in the deep south in the middle of summer, unless you like skin cancer. I take mine in a plain white, though.

leroy said...

I got a dog
But his name ain't Sal
He rode 15 miles
By the G'wanus Canal.

bikesgonewild said...

...sad story, mikeweb but, ya, i tend to agree with the experts...that poor guy knew his time was up or he wouldn't have been where he was...i'd think he was seeking shelter to await the inevitable but he just didn't have the energy to find a better spot...

Comment deleted said...

bgw, makes me think of Elvis, a little.

McFly said...

Isn't donning all that nice cycling-specific stretchy clothing and topping it off with a pair of Cattle-Wranglin' Cowpoke Gloves a little bit like fencing with a Welding Helmeant on?

He needs to check out what Serius has to offer.

Comment deleted said...

Hey, McFly, they carry XXL! Thanks, man. You don't know how long I've been looking...

leroy said...

Doll-phin, e'rybody down.
Doll-phin, poor thing is gonna drown.
And you'll double guess your neighbor,
You'll double guess your pal,
If you've ever lost a dolphin in the G'wanus Canal.

(Obvioulsy, it was a he. It wouldn't ask directions.)

babble on said...

Who needs a pipeline for bitumen when you've got NY city's finest canals doing the duty?

bikesgonewild said...

...@ comment deleted...i hope you mean my robs fords comment 'cuz that dolphin was not wearing a cape & a rhinestone belt...

...just sayin'...

bikesgonewild said...

...whoops, touche', comment deleted...i just 'got it'...

...bathroom humor (again)...elvis on the throne...

Comment deleted said...

nope, though I do see a high probability of the Fords ending up in a similar ungraceful pose.

bikesgonewild said...

...perhaps without a few serious personal changes, deservedly so but hey, i'm not tryin' to play dog here..

Roille Figners said...

BGW - Somehow I took that (3:11 pm) to read "blueberry carcass." Mmmm... blueberry.

ro-EE feen-YAY

Friendo said...

Jed @ 1;35: I think that you think that you are waaaaaaaay cooler than you actually are...

Anonymous said...

Article in reply to that one NYT:

You Don't Have to Be Superhuman to Commute by Bicycle

Anonymous said...

Such is the tale of Fords
He cares nothing for open doors

Likewise, the dolphin perishes
trapped in feces laden marshes

Such is the curve of learning
where a commuter's choice is smarting

a folding bike and dolphin both
poor choices in a toxic mirth

Anonymous said...

That poem sucks.

wishiwasmerckx said...

A propos winter commuting, try this poem and see if you like it better:

Spring has sprung,
fall has fell,
winter has come
and it's colder than...usual.

Brazilian Girls said...

Snobbers is going overboard (in the canal with the Dauphiné?) dumping on the NY Times riders. Their out there doing it.

They pass dogs,

They pass Moby Dicks gridlocked in their GMC Yukon XL's,

They pass cops sitting on stools in Dunkin Donuts,

They pass sanitation dept vehicles (very dangerous as drivers get a free pass to kill cyclists),

They pass the statue of Rob Fords, also dedicated to Herman Melville,

They all end up in a heep when they see Babble on in a brazilian bikini.

Robba the Ford said...

Give me your children so that I might nourish me own self and I will be thankful to you forever.

Anonymous said...

I am almost positive that I've seen the debate about post-apocalyptic tire pressure on bikeforums.

Mnlst Charles Manson said...

Hltr Skltr

goANUS Canal Porpise said...

AYHCSMB*

All you haters can suck my blowhole

Perrico Delgado said...

Meh





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Anonymous said...

Riding a bike that is expensive for expensive sake is what makes him a Fred

Oprah said...

Heres what I dont get; OK. This Fred spends big bucks on his stinky clothes and then wears work gloves. Whats with that?

Anonymous said...

1st non-doping commenter. In your face all you doping frauds!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

There was a story in the Anchorage Daly News a few years ago about a guy in Anchorage that was riding his bike to work on the bike trail and got mulled by a grizzly bear. After the mulling he got back on his bike and went to work... which was at a hospital, he was a doctor or something.

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Oprah said...

should have been riding a fat bike bears hate fat bikes.

bikesgonewild said...

...ya, but was it a real 'bear' bear or just one a' those fat bearded gay bear guys ???...

...((( not that there's anything wrong with that )))...uhhh, the gay part...the 'mauling, well that part, not so much...

...'cuz i'm guessing the results would be different...

...just sayin'...

McFly said...

CD,
Best. Gloves. Evarrrrrr.

That's got to be the COOLest wheelie bar I ever did see.

And I live in Tennessee, so that's sayin' sumpin'.

wishiwasmerckx said...

Anon 8:48:

I once mulled some Christmas Wine, But I have never been mulled by a grizzly bear.

I was once mistreated by a Kodiak Bear who took exception to the Cabernet Sauvignon I brought as a hostess gift to his little soiree. He stopped way short of a mauling. I was roughed up a little, but what are you gonna do?

The lesson? Just because he shits in the woods, do not assume that he isn't aware that Two Buck Chuck is a shite wine.

Detective Sgt. Douche' said...

The gowANUS canal dolphin death is being treated as a suicide. He left a note. Something about a she sea bass from Park Slope being a total slut. Go figure.

Det. Sgt. Saturday said...

PS - The dolphin had fin tatts and a PBR tatt right below his blow hole.

Anonymous said...

Fur hat and flip-flops usually means a sexy lady in a vodka ad!

Detroit WHOOP WHOOP!

Anonymous said...

Hey, maybe after Ray Lewis retires, he can start selling,

YOU MUST PROTECT THIS TAINT!

Anonymous said...

A $150 Assos hat makes you a Fred (and I like Assos stuff) but please. Not to mention a crossbike with frames that start at $3K.

bikesgonewild said...

...wishiwasmerckx...true story - here in california (call it 'cali' & i hope a dog pees on your sidis) 'two buck chuck' ain't 2 bucks anymore...

...trader joe's has been selling the stuff (charles shaw - actually the bronco wine co.) @ $1.99for the last 10 years but it just upchucked the price to $2.49...

...tj's sold 5 million cases of two buck chuck last year alone...

provo said...

40 miles commute? Meh.
As always in cycling we Belgians beat you to it:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20121023_00345493
This guy rides 70 miles to work through the Flemish Ardennes, works as a fireman for 12h and then head back 70 miles.

McFly said...

Bradley Cooper to play Lance Armstrong in a biopic?

Only if Zack Galifinakis can play Dave Z.

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JLee said...

Say neo-Fred on the Competitor.com website. http://triathlon.competitor.com/2013/01/training/three-interval-sets-to-improve-speed-on-the-bike_69925

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SeattleO said...

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mothers arrange their clothing to breastfeed so discreetly? I ask because here in the UK
some immigrant mothers find it hard to wear their traditional clothes and also feed the
baby - especially if they wear the shalwar kameez. I'm amazed because they must have been
designed for breastfeeding - but it seems the latest fashions are for a tight fitting,
long tunic. The shawl part of the sari looks very practical - but what do they wear
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