Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Bike Collabos: It Takes Two (to rip you off)

As a blogger and aggregator of all that is irritating, reprehensible, and fatuous in cycling, I often receive pictures of and links to offensive bicycles from readers. I always enjoy receiving these. I regard them as vile tokens of appreciation, in much the same way as the singer of a band might appreciate having underwear thrown at him onstage, even if they've been worn for upwards of 36 hours, have frayed elastic, and are badly in need of laundering.


Occasionally a bicycle is remarkable enough that a number of people forward it to me, and in the last few months one of the most forwarded bicycles has been the Fuji Obey. Despite the fact that it is indeed a noteworthy bicycle for a number of reasons, I have not mentioned it until now. This has been kicking around (the internet at least) for a long time. But if you haven't seen it yet, here it is:



This is perhaps the most contrived collision between a cheap bike and street art since some guy in Williamsburg intentionally ghost-rode his Schwinn Varsity conversion into a Biggie Smalls mural. If you’re unfamiliar with “Obey,” it started as a “street art campaign” and an “experiment in phenomenology” (according to paradigm of accuracy Wikipedia). And if you’re unfamiliar with street art, it’s basically just pretentious litter.

The Fuji Obey is especially noteworthy because it points to a trend of stylistic “collabos” in the cycling world. There are all types of collabos, but one popular type is when a tired old company attempts to breathe new life into itself by paying someone they’re told is cool to create brilliant new products like this. Or this. Sometimes the collabo is even between two tired old companies, like this. But no matter how they occur, collabos, (or “corporate lame brand offerings”) are tremendously exciting. First of all, they don’t “come out” or “become available.” That’s reserved for boring things like sandwiches, commemorative coins, and heart medicines. Instead, they “drop.” Secondly, collabos allow you to advertise two stupid brands on one product for the price of three.

Collabos are particularly popular in the world of hip-hop, where selling out is not only acceptable but required. Pioneering hip-hop branding collabos over the years include The Wu-Tang Clan and General Foods (Wu-Tang Tang), Ice-T and Folger’s (Ice-T Iced Coffee), and NWA and Kellogg’s (Fuck Tha Police Cereal). And beyond that, collabos have existed as long as people have. Some examples of historical collabos are the Jews and Jesus (Christianity), serfs and rats (the Bubonic Plague), and World War II.

So as fixed-gears become popular with “street culture” enthusiasts, you can expect more and more collabos. Like this one, which is only $6,000, and which I'm surprised Eric Clapton hasn't bought yet:



In fact, even I’m jumping onto the tail end of the collabo pack. After considering numerous offers, I decided to go with discount online retailer bikesdirect.com, for a special limited edition of their Windsor “The Hour.” Here’s the original bike:






And here’s the BSNYC collabo:







Notice the collabo doesn’t have valve caps. I hate valve caps! It will also come with a BSNYC sticker (which you can put on yourself) and will retail for $2,500. (Or about 20 Euros.)

Dropping soon on an internet near you!

136 comments:

Anonymous said...

i won't let it happen

Anonymous said...

wow 2nd!!!1

Anonymous said...

woogie woogie

Cameron said...
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Anonymous said...

wu tang tang.

priceless!

clayton said...

20 euros. haha.

Anonymous said...

Why does a bike with "new rear track bike dropout system designed specifically for messengers" cost $6000? Why are kinda deep track-ends even considered "designed". They had to have come straight from a catalog.

Anonymous said...

enought with the colaberation's already!!

Bed-ridden rider. said...

So I have double pnumonia and bronchitus, do you have any friggin idea how much pain you caused me with "The Wu-Tang Clan and General Foods (Wu-Tang Tang)"? I'm suing!

BTW: Any chance I can get a BSNYC Collabos Conversion Kit for my bike? I can't afford $2500 on a new bike but would gladly pay $1000 for instructions of how to remove my valve stem caps to convert my old bike into new and worthy of being "dropped"?

thefutureofamerica said...

I like that they've reinvented the wheel to make it harder to steal instead of adding, I dunno, maybe an actual lock?

pirate said...

almost a pirate

irishmaninthedesert said...

"paradigm"? "Paragon" maybe?

Karl Rover said...

Will the $2500 include the Iron Maiden Vans?

Polygraf said...

Favorite collabos:
Nelly and Kenny Rogers
Reggaeton and Optimum online(sing it 877 393 4 4 4 8)
Wu Tang Tang!!!!!!!!

collabo bro said...

BRILLIANT !!!

Jim said...

$6k for that?

I'm not even upset about it. Frankly, I'm impressed. I'm impressed (1) at the nerve of those bastards to charge $6k for that bike; (2) that the individuals dumb enough to pay $6k for that bike didn't all die off during the Cambrian era, y'know, when multi-cellular organisms evolved and became dominant.

ZiP said...

my fav collabo:

DQM and Trackstar last year.

Question though: how much were those Bianchi Pista Concepts they had fixed up?

I see one or two around here in the Lower, they're pretty.

ufniahs said...

how many times have the words "priceless" and "classic" appeared on the BSNYC comments?

bikesgonewild said...

...$6000 bike site link has best collabos ever...

...a hello kitty AR-15...

...for cute but deadly chicks...

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and because of a nearly crapped out, cracked LCD panel on my laptop, the BSNYC Windsor collabo has a nice yellow and red streak on it as long as I display both images on my screen simultaneously!

Jonathan said...

'Custom powdercoated U-Lock'? The mind boggles...

nolucker said...

Great post, Snob, I specially love the underwear part.

Daniel! said...

I saw some dude wearing those Iron Maiden shoes in front of the bike shop on Saturday. He was my age (about thirty) and was wearing a tee shirt with "fuck you" written on it and a giant, complicated pewter belt buckle in the shape of a grinning skull. He looked like one of those infants whose "cool" parents dress like a punk rocker. Seriously, those shoes might as well say Bob the Builder.

How can Fuji possibly justify the MSRP on that thing? Are the Obey licensing fees really that high? Power to the people, right?

not the same anonymous said...

$1420 for a quill stem? Only if that's a Chris King headset.

quentin loves caddy said...

24!

quentin loves caddy said...

I just got a book of Rilke-wisdom called Letters on Life. It's good. My cat is getting better.
There's a lot of snow in Chicago.
I'm debating whether I want to ride or take the El to class today. I wish I could read on my bike. Without getting hurt, I mean.
I think winter might be my favorite season.

Illinoisfrank said...

I took the valve caps off my Windsor 30 years ago. Yeah, I had an original Windsor Carrera. It wasn't much of a bike back then either...

Poppy said...

I love the description of that insipid Kid Robotard bike
"built from a mix of Dedacciai , True-Temper and some vintage Tange tubes"
Translated:
You're an idiot who poses as a messenger while getting checks from mom and dad, so I built this bike out of a bunch of wrecked bikes I had in my crap pile wit some stuff I bought from Aircraft Spruce.

The extra-deep dropouts lets Kid Snobot sell them a really cool gold-anodized tool called a ratchet that goes "clickety click" and has been engraved, sorry, tattooed by Ed Hardy with a grinning Japanese Devil. Price $145

As far as the Obey goes...what year is this? 1999? It's actually a perfect embodiment of the crap culture known as "street art." B-O-R-I-N-G!

I'm surprised you can't buy either of these exercises in Keynes Marginal Propensity to Consume at your local Urban Outfitters.

You could pick one up along with your Vans.

Daniel, the next time you see the guy with the Iron Maiden vans, kick him in the nuts! That's street art!

gttim said...

Man, I gotta get me some Ice-Tea Iced Coffee! And yeah, rappers all seel out, eagerly anticipate it and then want to be CEOs instead of rappers. Chris Rock does a bit about that. "Nobody is a rapper anymore, they are all entrepreneurs. That is why raps sucks right now."

You missed Rancid with Jimmy Dean Sausage (Rancid Jimmy Dean Sausages).

Bad Religion is looking to team up with a publishing house to release a Bad Religion Bible.

My boys in Rush teamed up with organ transportation box makers long ago. You see Rush on almost all organ shipments these days!

Matt in Seattle said...

Wow......

bikesgonewild said...

...wow, a geddy lee reference...

KanyonKris said...

That red, white and blue Project Nemesis bike is hideous. But they had so much fun with the little touches: a Kid Robot keychain (for the custom U-lock keys), a Kid Robot emblem on the head tube, and Kid Robot valve stem caps. But my favorite is the pretentious white ostrich leather seat. And what is that gray thing in the middle of the saddle? I guess it's just a label - placed annoyingly right under your anus. But the hemorrhoids are well worth showing off the saddle brand.

I Martin said...

The day a bike messenger can afford a $6000 "messenger specific bike" is the day that messenger buys a used Civic and retires from being a messenger.

sh said...

oh, oh, oh, this post is a crack up,
and Fuck Tha Police Cereal is the crown jewel.

still laughing...

broomie said...

So, what can I ride without fear of scorn or ridicule?

And where can I find those Vans? They seem like excellent birth control.

gttim said...

...wow, a geddy lee reference...

Nah, a Rush reference. A Geddy Lee reference would have Geddy teaming up with some sinus inhaler maker.

(Geddy does long bike tours. Neil used to. So they do ride, unlike Clapton.)

Osterburgerboy said...

"pretentious litter." funny.

Bun E said...

Its...

So Beautiful

erik k said...

bike snob & prolly

their like the odd couple of the cycling blogosphere

Nick said...

Honey, I'm pregnant. There's two Snob posts today. Days I will never forget.

Nick

clayton said...

i wish i'd been around earlier to bring the troll hammer down upon quentin loves caddy. seriously. what's up with that guy?

clayton said...

oh, and where's leroy? he's been light recently. same with jim. come on, guys.

jeremy said...

kanyonkris,

Here is some info on the seat you were wondering about.
Pivotal Seat

I have one on dirt-jumping bike of mine and would say it is a neat idea, but nothing special. I couldn't imagine it on a bike meant for distance and comfort like the kid robot bike. *wink*

Commiecanuk said...

erik k said...

bike snob & prolly

their like the odd couple of the cycling blogosphere


Begging the question..who's the Tony Randall?

Some more unsuccessful collabos: Flava Flav and Rolex; Luciano Pavarotti and Loretta Lynn (not making that up); General mills and Scott Bakula (Count Bakula cereal, the one with the least memorable taste); and Microsoft and Apple, for the iCrap: the future in on-line shitting.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. BSNYC:

“I often receive pictures of and links to ... bicycles from readers. I always enjoy receiving these.”

Did you happen to see Sunday’s NYT’s Fashion section ?

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/01/18/fashion/0120-STREET_index.html

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 3:49pm,

I did. First the rotting corpse of Diana Vreeland. And then, inexplicably, roadies...

Strange.

--BSNYC

hey you there. stop! said...

can't believe you didn't include that one:

http://www.lookmanobrakes.com/

ernesto high-fives the fixedgearfreestylers (and they both rake in the cash)

Anonymous said...

Actually it is "Help the Police Cereal"

Help Tha Police

Anonymous said...

BSNYC:
Did you also notice that (came today) Newsweek magazine has two advertisements featuring bike to sell other products: Toyota is advertising a minivan on the back cover underneath two people playing bike polo in a park: 'big enough to carry all your gear'; as well as a hotel advertising a bike club to entice travelers ?
Apparently cycling in all it forms is now mainstream? Or was it always but people forgot ? Does this effect the apoca-watch in any way ?

---Anonymous 3:49 and now later

Anonymous said...

uhhh...flash animation. If I meet they guy who invented flash animation I will tie him up, force his eyelids open to watch the steam come off a fresh turd for 3 hours.

ivanka go bushwick said...

erik k said...

bike snob & prolly

their like the odd couple of the cycling blogosphere




they seem more like Mr. Burns and Mr. Smithers!

Anonymous said...

Trek had a collabo with Volkswagon on the 90s Jettas, which was brilliant because anyone with those Jettas knows that the bike is the only way you will reliably get home.

bikesgonewild said...

...b of a has a bankamerikard commercial in which a red unlogo-ed (rattle-can job?) road bike rolls unaided & unsupported throughout, following along side the dummy in the ad...

clayton said...

It puts the lotion on it's skin or it gets the hose again!!!

snarf!

BikeSnobNYC said...

Not a collabo, but fun nonetheless:

http://tinyurl.com/24q5fl

--BSNYC

Bryan said...

Tried to look at the lookmannohands site - failed! I just can't read spraybomb. Why is it that everything cool is fashioned in the hip-hop style? I wish I had my own camera crew that followed me around - I could, with my single hand, make redneck fashionable again. I'm both in and out raged..

clayton said...

that one was just mean. i guess i'll just have to start signing in.

rmckittr said...

I have seen the Obey Fuji in real life. "Where?" you ask. Not in a bike shop, nor under a rider. Indeed not even locked up in front of a trendy bar. It is hanging in the window in an "urban wear" store. The kind that sells custom sneakers that just "dropped" and hooded sweat shirts festooned with "$$" and references to illegal business enterprises.
Maybe the Obey will become the whip of choice amongst gangstas, hustlas and playas. Cycling will become cool yet! If Jay Z drops another album, you know that he will have to reference his custom FGFer if he has any hope of remaining relevant with the youth of today.

mr.complaint said...

oooo, the Hello Kitty AR-15. And the Audi and the brick wall. That's a good collabos!

And the lost uncle of all Collabos:

http://tinyurl.com/2uvew6

Anonymous said...

$6,000!!! remove one zero and its still overpriced and it has looks only a mother could love

Anonymous said...

That Nemesis Project bike looks to have been inspired by a 1988 edition of Hot Rod or Street Rod or Butt-fucking Hideous "Mono-chromed" SEMA-Machine Magazine.

Anonymous said...

Snobbie..I thought for sure your callabo would have at least an optional brake lever mounted to the top tube...no caliper...just the lever.

erik k said...

I still think the Cannondale. collabo is one of the funniest worst. Plus its 1,500 pounds didn't snob say thats like 30,00 US?

morgan said...

I'm surprised no one else has brought up the Beastles. Man, are they a classic collabo, or what?!

Look:

http://www.djbc.net/beastles/

Listen:

http://www.djbc.net/beastles/webcontent/djbc-WhatchaWantLady.mp3

http://www.djbc.net/beastles/webcontent/djbc-ifeelfinerightnow.mp3

BS, you never cease to amuse me.

Jim said...

ufniah... that dis was classic. Truly priceless.

Other historically bad collabos:
Cipo / Hair gel
Foam # 1 fingers / TdF
Roadracing / EPO
Congress / Doping hearings
Isaiah Thomas / Knicks
Lance / Olson Twins
Sarbanes / Oxley
Isaiah Thomas / Knicks

(I know I put Isaiah Thomas and the Knicks in there twice. But have you seen how bad the Knicks are under Isaiah? Only respect for Spike Lee, who seems to think he's a co-owner, keeps me from listing them again. They're that bad).

leroy said...

BSNYC --

I liked the Seven/Blackberry mutual admiration ad.

But I don't understand why folks are always touting how their bikes disappear underneath the rider.

My bike disappeared underneath me recently.

It left a bruise.

(P.S. -- Street art as pretentious litter, now there's a new classic. Nicely done.)

Daniel! said...

I just got a book of Rilke-wisdom called Letters on Life. It's good. My cat is getting better.
There's a lot of snow in Chicago.
I'm debating whether I want to ride or take the El to class today. I wish I could read on my bike. Without getting hurt, I mean.
I think winter might be my favorite season.


Yeah, no shit?

Anonymous said...

Han Solo cups
Chewbacca chewing tobacca'
Barbi-Wan Kenobi's Malibu Death Star

leroy said...

I wasn't that impressed with the Iron Maiden Vans.

When I was young, my mom made me a set of Motley Crue PJs with footies.

They're a little snug now.

But folks still notice when I wear them.

Anonymous said...

Don't hate cuz no one wants to do a collabo with you. If the OBEY sux so bad how come every shop that has ordered them has already sold out of them! Why? Cus off the rack it's a good fuckin ride. Fuji didn't just jump on the collabo band-wagon, they actually talked to riders who are in the scene and asked what would work and what wouldn't. Don't pass judgement through pix off the web. If you take a close enough look at the actual bike it's pretty bad-ass. Lugged steel frame, real Track geometry, Miche cranks, Brooks saddle...not to shabby. Yeah it's a little pricey, but with the possibility of it only being available for ONE year...that's the price you pay for limited editions. Just ask you're local Nike nerd, they'll tell you all about that type of shit

Poppy said...

Damn! the Hello Kitty AR-15 would be perfect for shootin' up one of them stores with the 200$ printed hoodies!

Where's my Frank Kozik Escalade?

Meow meow this Bitches!!

Anonymous said...

Another famous collabo is Vincent Gallo who did the paint job on the first Brooklyn Machine Works frame.

http://tinyurl.com/23kapn

Now if only we could get Snoop Dogg to set up a chroming shop, we'd be laughin all da way to da...wah, nevermind

SeattleM&M said...

In approximately 28 hours, my worn boxer briefs will be ripe and ready to mail. Love those Iron Maiden Vans!

Anonymous said...

Welcome to the Ghettodrome, god that sounds stupid.

erik k said...

Anonymous 5:43 PM...

your clearly just don't get it
do yourself a favor and don't
bother reading this blog

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 5:43,

So we agree. It's an overpriced bike with middling components. Not too shabby. But pretty shabby.

--BSNYC

BikeSnobNYC said...

Anonymous 5:43,

Also, the Obey doesn't have track geometry. The angles are actually pretty relaxed. The only thing tracky is the fork offset.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't think it's meant to be ridden on a track.

--BSNYC

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:43 PM..

Wow you've convinced me. I don't know if it was your mastery of the written word or your obvious finger on the pulse of the hipster generation...I'm going to march right out and get me one of whatever the hell you say will make me cool....cuz I ain't haitin....I'm laughing!

Daniel! said...

If the OBEY sux so bad how come every shop that has ordered them has already sold out of them! Why?

Word 'em up dude. That's some seriously impeccable logic. And Huffy, Nickelback, and Danielle Steele also turn out top-of-the-line products. Look at their sales!

Fuji didn't just jump on the collabo band-wagon, they actually talked to riders who are in the scene and asked what would work and what wouldn't.

What scene? I don't recall being consulted.

Don't pass judgement through pix off the web. If you take a close enough look at the actual bike it's pretty bad-ass. Lugged steel frame, real Track geometry, Miche cranks, Brooks saddle...not to shabby.

Yeah, just like a cheapy conversion with a hundred-dollar saddle and new cranks. Plus, it's probably easier to sandblast the stupid-looking finish off an older bike before you powder-coat it.

Yeah it's a little pricey, but with the possibility of it only being available for ONE year...that's the price you pay for limited editions. Just ask you're local Nike nerd, they'll tell you all about that type of shit

Very limited... Just like those Franklin Mint plates my grandmother collected. Dude: they're limiting them to the number they can sell, and they're only making those bikes for a year because by next year, anyone who might have bought one but didn't will have moved on to some other ridiculous fad. And asking someone who collects tennis shoes about anything seems like a pretty sure-fire way to obtain a useless, nonsensical response.

octopus magic said...

My favorite Obey link:

http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Obey/index.htm

Obey "art" is all about "borrowing". Kinda like how Rihanna "borrows" old new wave 80's beats for her hit craptacular songs.

Andy Pandy said...

And I thought that I had latched onto the cool bike scene and might cruise with some babes on the streets. By the looks of the young lassies on NY Times I have been chasing the wrong bus. Any one want to buy a sparkling black road bike as I am going back to the mini golf circuit as plaid covered caddies are looking good. Also where is the Cogs Kiddie as being at the pointy end of a trend is his turf

Nick said...

What Daniel! said.

Anonymous said...

I just envisioned a hoard of bike geeks sprinting from their computers to find someone who knows something about shoes to get an enlightened opinion about bikes.

duncan said...

I love this Mercian - Paul Smith collaboration:

http://www.merciancycles.com/psmith.asp

Bryan said...

I think snob logged in as Ano-5:43 PM just too stir the pot; the whole post led from one hitch to the next zing to the next rim shot. Masterful! As usual, I'm always swayed during a discussion by those that use the 'z' in place of an 's' and the x in place of 'ctures.'

Bluenoser said...

cycling is the new golf snob. let's hope the cloths don't come with it.

-B

The Great White Hype said...

The Obey link and comment provided by Octopus Magic summed it up nicely.

Fuji Obey:
Lugged steel? Borrowed.
Track angles? Borrowed.
Brooks saddle? Borrowed.
Limted editions? Borowed.
Time to live? Borrowed.

I do, for one, feel rappers should be free to collaborate, but never on anything EXCEPT tracks. The possibilities are too frightening to comprehend...

Beastie Boys Own Comics?
X-Zibit A, your Honour?
Eric B and Merkin?

Jim
The GWH

quentin loves caddy said...

Dearest Clayton,
You will have to excuse my brother, Quentin. Please do not be furious with him. He thinks that he is in love with me! But what he really loves is death. My other brother thinks I smell like leaves! They are so silly!
-Caddy

P.S. You must change your life.

clayton said...

you're right. i'm sorry.

B34NS said...

i forsee a cheap monday/obey collab soon to come, ooh maybe even a bansky masi

AnnaZed said...

Why did Vandermark gas on and on about China and Asia in that Blackberry thingy?

I mean I guess it wouldn't be that impressive to brag that your Blackberry always works in Watertown, Mass, but the repeated Asia/China references were just weird.

What is he up to?

Anonymous said...

Annazed:

I think its cause he actually owns China.

Anonymous said...

'The Obey'
A sublimely precise name for that bike.

KanyonKris said...

jeremy: thanks for the info on the Pivotal Seat - an elegant design with an achilles heel: the allen wrench access hole on the top of the seat. But if they go with a cutout saddle design they're golden.

snob: the Crackberry / Seven lovefest video was indeed funny - too bad Rob V. didn't get the joke. Class, the business-speak word of the day is: immediacy.

mr.complaint: thanks for the Gremlin / Levis collabo - classic.

KanyonKris said...

snob: Rob V. also mentioned Taiwan in his list of far-flung places he travels for business. Gee, I wonder where Seven frames are made?

john said...

I saw the Obey bike in a rare sneakers store window and the first thing I thought was, man, they could have at least removed the valve caps.

No kidding.

Anonymous said...

Wow, a two-fer today. The first post was saub-par as far as these things go, but I understand just how challenging it is to come up with great s**t day after day. The second was redemption for sure.

Anonymous said...

haha.. $2500 or 20 Euros. You're pretty much the man... man.

aaron said...

Thanks for the Blackberry/Vandermark mutual ass-licking session. Vandermark looks EXACTLY like 99% of the people who ride his bikes. They look like, well, engineers and professionals who don't ride bikes.

Sevens "disappear under the rider" because most Seven owners have more than enough adipose tissue to hide nearly any vehicle under their ample posteriors.

aaron said...

I'm my own Grandpa!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, right on brother! Artist should stick to art and bike companies should stick makin bikes! The two should never mix! They should both remain PURE! The combination of the two mediums will create an inferior culture of in the world of the bike nerd! So I say DOWN WITH DIVERSITY! DOWN WITH CREATIVITY! DOWN WITH FREE ENTERPRISE! AND UP YOUR BUTTT WITH A COCONUT! SEIG HEINY! HAHAHAAAA

Anonymous said...

Wow, I am all about bikes and riding but you guys are a bunch of wankers. This is my first look at this site. While I appreciate the humor and sentiment, it shouldn't be taken personally. You guys posting comments on here need to go pedal your ass around and stop whining about what Fuji and Obey are doing. What possible difference could it make in your life?

BotchedExperiment said...

Fucking spray painted u-lock and keys is art?

I've got an '88 trek road bike and a '91 kryptonite u-lock I'd be happy to do a shitty two-tone paint job on. And I'll only charge $5k.

Commiecanuk said...

Anonymous said...

Wow, I am all about bikes and riding but you guys are a bunch of wankers. This is my first look at this site. While I appreciate the humor and sentiment, it shouldn't be taken personally. You guys posting comments on here need to go pedal your ass around and stop whining about what Fuji and Obey are doing. What possible difference could it make in your life?


oh, shut up. There's always some sanctimonious twat who writes something like this, "just get out and ride ...man, simplify ...man".

Pffft. Hippies.

The Bikeworks Crew said...

The "custom designed" dropouts on that Kid Robot monstrosity look very similar to the dropouts found on the #250 complete Cayne Uno Track bike, the house brand for J&B distributors.
Nothing says custom like ripping of J&B.

leroy said...

Botchedexperiment --

Will it cost more if someoe wants to choose the colors?

Or would that be like asking Picasso if he could put the nose between the eyes of those folks in that Guernica painting?

AnnaZed said...

Speaking of Cayne Uno Bikes, yike!

http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/546947656.html

Clayton said...

Leroy, first, ha.

second, botched could call the lock the "canvas lock." like those mission cycles folks.

wonder how they're doing.

Brad@nemesisproject.com said...

Hello bikesnob Blog
first off let me say thank you for generating over 2500 hits to my web blog over the past 24 hours!

The comments comprised here are absurd .
First off let me remind you of a few things you all might have forgotten.

ART: by definition is perceived in the eyes of the beholder.
Art should spur discussion and controversy
Thus you have all done this for me , so thank you for legitimizing my ART bike.

Kid-Robot spec'd the outrageous price of 6K
What hasent been mentioned is the amount of time and hand labor that went into building this bike , EVERYTHING was either custom painted or modified in some way.
The frame is a one off hand built 1 of 1 custom , build in the USA from the best materials possible.
STOCK Nemesis Project frames range from $850-$1500
The retail value of the parts alone is well over $2500 not including custom paint of the frame .

A few of you have commented on the dropouts
These are by NO means catalogue rip offs , but 1000% one off designed drops .
Please see attached link below for pic's of the solid works renderings of the drops that were one off CNC'd for this bike .

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/1_G_001.sized.jpg

Thanks for the hype
Brad Hodges
Framebuilder -Nemesis Project cycles

Clayton said...

speaking of mission cycles...

Daniel! said...

ART: by definition is perceived in the eyes of the beholder.
Art should spur discussion and controversy
Thus you have all done this for me , so thank you for legitimizing my ART bike.


art –noun
1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.


I don't see anything about the, uh, "eye of the beholder" in there. Or discussion and controversy. Nor do I see anything of more than ordinary significance in the bike, except the price tag and the ridiculous paint job. That thing is not art, anymore than my bike is art. Just because you made it and you think it's neat doesn't mean it's in the same category as, say, "JUPITER AND SEMELE". It's just a bike. It has a weird paint job. That's it. Of course, if you're referring to the definitions farther down on the page, I might concede that there's an element of art to what you do:

art –noun
13. trickery; cunning
14. studied action; artificiality in behavior.


Trickery, you know? Like telling people True Temper is the "best material possible" (well, I suppose they did use it to build some awesome low-to-mid range Trek in the eighties) or that the retail value of the parts on that bike is over $2500 (is, ahem, "Kid Robot" selling them?)

AnnaZed said...

Jeez Brad, relax.

Anonymous said...

If art is in the eye of the beholder Brad, then the comments here aren't absurd, they're just what we're seeing when we look at your project.

Personally, I don't see a lot of craftmanship or any real understanding of what bike is or does. I see something that has a particularly non-distinct form which has almost completely supplanted all function, and looks much like any hipster fixed gear I see here in the Mission. But of course costs way more.

If I was going to drop the kind of money you guys are asking for this bike, I'd go with these guys (and probably still have some change leftover)...

http://www.vanillabicycles.com/

...as to your comment about art spurring controversy, I think you're leaning a little heavily on that cliche; after all we've been criticizing the price you're asking not some underlying theme you've explored or some innovative technique you've used. Maybe you're aspiring to be the Andy Warhol of fixed-gears, but that's hardly controversial in any substantive way.

But hey, these are just the thoughts that come to mind when I see your project.

leroy said...

Ahhh, a discussion of what is art with a reference to the art versus artifice conundrum!

And in a bicycling blog no less!

To Daniel's and Anon 12:45's insightful comments, let me just add the following reminder.

The term "BS Artist" can refer to (a) credibility and a lack thereof, (b) the artist's disappointing aesthetics or skills, (c) a person whose advocacy abilities are so advanced that he can convince someone else to pay a substantial premium for a bike because it comes with a colorful patter and back story, or (a)someone one who works with cow pies.

Notice I used "(a)" twice. That was not a typo.

Rather it was a bold aesthetic choice demonstrating that I am not enslaved to the accepted conventions of alpha-numerical progressions and their related epistomologies.

Or it could be evidence that I too am capable of some modest BS Artistry.

Hope that helps.

Scott Gordo said...

>Blogger ZiP said...
>my fav collabo:
>DQM and Trackstar last year.
>Question though: how much were those Bianchi Pista Concepts they had fixed up?
>I see one or two around here in the Lower, they're pretty.

Yeah, but you're likely not getting the joke that they may not have realized they made.

All those collabos had late 80's/early 90's freestyle stickers referencing bikes that slammed the door on the era of the really cool BMX bikes and style. By the late 80's companies like GT, Hutch, Schwinn, etc were no longer built in Santa Ana or Chicago or Florida, but outsourced to Taiwan. With some exceptions, the only thing remaining of the product that made them famous in the first place was the name on the sticker. Predictably, as the quality went down the tubes and interest in BMX moved on to MTB, BMX's relatively reserved chrome and candy colors were replaced with neon.

Does this story sound familiar to anyone? I think Trackstar is actually fairly prescient in predicting their own demise.

Oh yeah: BikeSnob, enjoyed the Z-Rims mention a while back.

Anonymous said...

I'll take an Indy Fab custom paint job any day.
And the bike frame. They do nice paint work.
So do many others.

I mean... if you're going to pay that much, why not go custom.
Design your own art bike or better yet, paint it yourself.

Unless of course you find beauty in the other limited editions. Marketing is an art form, too.

Anonymous said...

this went up in the local Silverlake, Los Angeles SuperCoolSneakerStore (who are selling 6 of these bikes)

a few days later this happened...

Poppy said...

Swobo has a bike customized by Sub Pop and Jeff Kleinsmith.Jsut a bike covered with stickers. Not for sale though. Although that would the ultimate fuck-all.
You could sell a Tange prestige crapmobile constructed of vintage tubing and covered with limited edition stickers.
Why the stickers alone are one of a kind handmade on my printer.
By themselves they are worth thousands.
Hey Kid Robot, wanna sell it?

Anonymous said...

i agree with a lot of what was said. i think its a bit contrived to label all "street art" as pretentious. if you want to talk about pretentious you should read your own blog. youre a biker, not an artist so stick to what you know.

Anonymous said...

Collabo? How about El Al Isralei Airline and Al Italia Italian Airline to make "Well, I'll Tell Ya" Airlines.

Anonymous said...

In the U.S. space program, Tang is a beverage. In the Chinese space program, Tang is an astronaut.

Anonymous said...

The bike snob is just a bike snot and all you motherfuckers are on his dick! If he came out and said this bike was hot, all of you would agree. Come on, get real, go get a fucking job.

Anonymous said...

a 'stop snitching' pista?

Mark from CELL Bikes Australia said...

Being both a closet bike snob and a closet hipster, I found this post to be hilarious!

As we are about to drop our own fixie in Australia, we welcome you have have a look and offer any constructive or bitchy feedback.

Cheers,

Mark from CELL Bikes Australia

Jimmy Read said...

interesting enough, super touch has posted a response to all this obey plagarism:
http://www.supertouchart.com/2009/02/02/editorial-the-medium-is-the-message-shepard-fairey-and-the-art-of-appropriation/

Fuji Bikes said...

There are four different Fuji Newest bikes in the market. The Newest 4.0 which is the cheapest of the range. Fuji makes some very nice bikes, their top end frames are very good. http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/faq/Do_We_Know_Fuji_Bikes.html

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The Jew/Jesus Collabo comment make me laugh out loud for real.

Aside from making it the catalyst for this diatribe on collabos, what is your impression of the fuji bike itself?

I'm guessing its fairly negative... :)

I'm new to cycling. I have a Trek Soho S and like it alot. Before I got it, I did check out the Fuji Obey.. but the gold handles didn't sit well with me.

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The worst part is that if it didn't say "obey" all over it, and had grips... it would be a good looking bike. Either way, it should not be so expensive.