tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post7004972842202648492..comments2024-03-27T07:25:55.115-04:00Comments on Bike Snob NYC: Make It Stop! Cycling In A World Gone MadBikeSnobNYChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11256142855437740163noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-17190071896160130182012-01-18T15:03:10.224-05:002012-01-18T15:03:10.224-05:00Catching up on the archives. I can't believe I...Catching up on the archives. I can't believe I'm the only geek here in 4.5 years. 13 mm is a thick top tube? In what alternate reality? That's only 1/2". Who has a 1/2" top tube, except maybe Moulton riders, but they'd need a two top tube pads.Anonynerdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-43591181817416645552009-09-18T01:55:51.865-04:002009-09-18T01:55:51.865-04:00I think cycling is a good exercise. and I love sav...I think cycling is a good exercise. and I love saving money on cycling clothes if you want great discounts on cycling clothes just like me so use <a rel="dofollow" href="http://www.couponrefund.com/stores/probikekit-discount-coupon-codes.html" rel="nofollow">probikekit code</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-39529008189074613612007-08-25T23:19:00.000-04:002007-08-25T23:19:00.000-04:00Wearing a CSC team kit isnt to make you look like ...Wearing a CSC team kit isnt to make you look like a pro, its to show your support for a team you like. Wearing an A's cap or a Raiders jacket doesn't mean your on the team. Not that I have a full CSC kit. My club/team jersey is the only one I have that isnt from a thrift store or a hand me down.Deltaentropyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13026369626381541185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-48339944174288245892007-08-23T21:38:00.000-04:002007-08-23T21:38:00.000-04:00I couldn't help but comment on that "poofs and pos...I couldn't help but comment on that "poofs and poseurs" contribution from "Anonymous."<BR/><BR/>The biggest "poseurs" we now have in the "OC" are the fixie riders. I'll hopefully see the twit on PCH while riding my converted Fuso while wearing my old club jersey, my black lycra bib shorts, my Bell helmet, my Diadora cycling shoes - in other words, all my "roadie" gear but on a fixed gear.<BR/><BR/>Screw him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-72034007052011410052007-08-23T18:04:00.000-04:002007-08-23T18:04:00.000-04:00Thanks, BSNYC.Good points all. I come at my own b...Thanks, BSNYC.<BR/>Good points all. I come at my own bikesnobbery from a non-competitive mtn/commuting angle, so the roadie/racy thing is a little mystifying. But I am heartened to know that the hallmark of a true road snob is his team kit. I will make this distinction now before passing judgment.<BR/>Rgds,<BR/>8:17Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-21112134210839122652007-08-23T16:08:00.000-04:002007-08-23T16:08:00.000-04:008:17,Thanks, I hear you. I do think I need to cle...8:17,<BR/><BR/>Thanks, I hear you. I do think I need to clear up the misconception some people have, which is that cycling kits are worn primarily for aerodynamics. The fact is that, apart from time trials (in which you wear a skinsuit, not shorts and a jersey), the main reasons for wearing them are that they wick moisture and help keep you cool and dry, they prevent chafing, and they conform to you in a way that allows you to move freely without having excess material to flap in the wind or catch on your saddle nose or what have you. (Yes, being aero is part of that, but it's only a part.) That's why even XC MTB racers wear cycling kits. Aerodynamics are not a concern off-road, but being comfortable and not catching your shorts on a treebranch are.<BR/><BR/>Lots of non-cyclists also have the same misconception about shaved legs--that it's done to be aero. It's not.<BR/><BR/>As for wearing CSC team kits or whatever, any bike snob worth his chamois will tell you that wearing a pro team kit is completely unacceptable. (As bad as Ksyriums with a pie plate.) You wear your own team kit, or if you're not on a team, you wear a plain jersey and shorts. <BR/><BR/>--BSNYCBikeSnobNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256142855437740163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-52818258988245615082007-08-23T15:47:00.000-04:002007-08-23T15:47:00.000-04:00BSNYC,It's 8:17 again. Don't get that chamois all...BSNYC,<BR/>It's 8:17 again. Don't get that chamois all in a twist.<BR/>I wasn't suggesting that roadies ride in their jeans. I don't for long rides. I don't advocate or practice discomfort, and it certainly wasn't uncomfortable to swim in drag suits. My only point is that if you aren't racing, you don't *really* need skin-tight lycra with the CSC logo, etc. People ride this stuff to look like the pros (for the most part), not because its necessarily the most comfortable. If I was training for a race it would just be my instinct to train in less aero gear and then get super aero for a race.<BR/>And no I don't think "ewww, girls are gross", I just think poseurs in skin tight clothing are gross. But to each his/her own.<BR/>BTW, very entertaining blog (besides your homoerotic predilections for spandex)... Just kidding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-23962002082224330472007-08-23T12:08:00.000-04:002007-08-23T12:08:00.000-04:00Sorry Eric-seems he probably does know what it is-...Sorry Eric-seems he probably does know what it is-and it does have cloth tape on the flats of the drops-just as it came from the Cinelli factory-damn-just ain't ever seen anything so mint!Looked through his blog-looks like he collects 'em like art-good luck to him!Bikesnob-one danger here is that we're all to ready to blindly slag people off(aussie slang)without getting the full story,'cos it's fun!Shit-Eric aint gonna ride that thing,becausehe admires it as art and for it's rarity-damn IF I had abike like that-I would NEVER ride it,so who cares if it doesn't meet street riding style criteria!!!!!!!(cracked,beater,repainted,Cinelli f&f of that era went to AU$1250 on ebay recently,so that is probably the most valuable bike that any of us will ever lay eyes on,in a photo or otherwise!Eddy's hour record blke may beat it-and that's a maybe!)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02209019684251808798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-80971551412377825882007-08-23T11:31:00.000-04:002007-08-23T11:31:00.000-04:00now my internet's off snail mode-I take a close lo...now my internet's off snail mode-I take a close look at Clapton's track bike-damn thing is worth more than the latest carbonwonder bike-mint vintage Cinelli with inch pitch Campy,fully period correct'cos it's original-WTF would THAT go for at auction if such a thing ever came up and it never will-and he probably barely knows what it is..........fukn rock stars!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02209019684251808798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-85002636423491356842007-08-23T03:52:00.000-04:002007-08-23T03:52:00.000-04:00the fact that performance cyclist now offers to sh...the fact that performance cyclist now offers to ship their bicycles 100% assembled is telling to me. that enough of their customers are incompetent or uninterested enough to learn how to affix wheels, pedals, and handlebars to their $5000 bicycles to make such expensive shipping viable is pathetic. what do these people do when they get a flat? call their wife to drive the porsche cayenne out to pick them up? consider also that they offer to replace derailleur pulleys for hundreds of dollars to obtain an extra eight-tenths of a watt. i guess it's a totally different mindset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-1455401061724856942007-08-23T00:29:00.000-04:002007-08-23T00:29:00.000-04:00I dig Cyclofiend, but retrogrouches like me are pr...I dig Cyclofiend, but retrogrouches like me are probably the most guilty showing off our bikes online. We get off on being "different" and love announcing to the world things like:<BR/><BR/>"Check out how thick my tires are!"<BR/><BR/>"Look at my shellaced bars!"<BR/><BR/>"I mix road and mountain parts!"<BR/><BR/>"My racks and bags cost more than my bike!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-73896565149274297712007-08-22T22:34:00.000-04:002007-08-22T22:34:00.000-04:00Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only pict...Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only pictures I see of true 'roadies' on this site (http://www.cyclofiend.com/index.html) show them actually racing/riding their bikes. <BR/><BR/>As a died in the wool roadie, I do realize that if one takes a few steps back I and the rest of my friends look pretty silly in our lycra. But that's why I only wear it ON the bike when I'm riding for more than 25 miles at a time. <BR/><BR/>Finally, I do take offense to the quote in the NYTimes article (http://tinyurl.com/3xte26) insinuating that fixie riders in alleycats are the only people who like to drink beer. I think most roadies (yes even those without beer guts) enjoy the occasional beer. Hell even Floyd Lan...ok bad example, anyway my point is that one can be a roadie and still not be a calorie counting, watt measuring number cruncher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-36850781916092178382007-08-22T15:16:00.000-04:002007-08-22T15:16:00.000-04:00That site is not full of roadie bikes. Just rivend...That site is not full of roadie bikes. Just rivendells, cross bikes, single/fixie and working bikes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-40310876258643584652007-08-22T14:14:00.000-04:002007-08-22T14:14:00.000-04:00"There would probably be more, but roadies don't p..."There would probably be more, but roadies don't post their bikes to internet galleries the way fixed-gear riders do."<BR/><BR/>http://www.cyclofiend.com/index.html<BR/><BR/>...just in case you have some extra time on your hands....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-33514144226407572752007-08-22T13:05:00.000-04:002007-08-22T13:05:00.000-04:00Anonymous 4:06 - please, keep going off and exposi...Anonymous 4:06 - please, keep going off and exposing yourself for being the fixie POSEUR !!!! that you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-68211293044037510912007-08-22T12:58:00.001-04:002007-08-22T12:58:00.001-04:00All debate aside, the NYTimes has turned its journ...All debate aside, the NYTimes has turned its journalistic eye on alleycats. Some points make by the participants within are relevant to this discussion:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/3xte26<BR/><BR/>--BSNYCBikeSnobNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256142855437740163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-38244242632867815012007-08-22T12:58:00.000-04:002007-08-22T12:58:00.000-04:00Anon 4:60 -After reading your post, I got on CL an...Anon 4:60 -<BR/><BR/>After reading your post, I got on CL and bought a rusted $10 20 year old huffy, and boy am I happy. On my way to work, i flew past a crappy old Sekine. You are right, the cheaper, the better! Now ive got my eye on some flip-flops to tour in. Thanks again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-22389903622162642202007-08-22T12:37:00.000-04:002007-08-22T12:37:00.000-04:00Anonymous:Top tube pads, aside from fashion, are p...Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>Top tube pads, aside from fashion, are primarily to prevent scratches and dents from either the bars swinging around and hitting the frame or locking the bike up.<BR/><BR/>I know that BSNYC will say just use pipe insulation, but I guarantee that if BSNYC saw a bike with pipe insulation wrapped around the top tube he'd make fun of it.<BR/><BR/>That said, I don't own a top tube pad.Nikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12496402709810536736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-71946604489394076332007-08-22T12:17:00.000-04:002007-08-22T12:17:00.000-04:00Anon 4:60 -You know, you made a really good point,...Anon 4:60 -<BR/><BR/>You know, you made a really good point, one I am sure most people here would agree with, and one that the bikesnobnyc in fact has posted on... But loose the spandex-is-for-aerodynamics schtick, it just exposes your ignorance, and makes you look silly...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-86124226770177306642007-08-22T12:09:00.000-04:002007-08-22T12:09:00.000-04:00Jim,Just wondering. Never heard someone compare Wb...Jim,<BR/><BR/>Just wondering. Never heard someone compare Wburg to Hoboken Besides Nth 6th between Berry and Wythe...<BR/><BR/>Also, pretty much every major / hip area of NYC started out as being flooded with "hepcats" from which the word "hipster" originated from. Once it was 'cool' it became gentrified by real estate brokers and yuppies. Williamsburg is much like how Georgetown was 10 - 15 years ago too... <BR/><BR/>Most of your parents were probably hepcats in the 60's so...<BR/><BR/>Anyway, with regards to Lycra, I think the main reason why people harp on roadies so much is that they're entirely too matchy matchy with it. Like, take the pantone chip to the shop and pick out your matching outfit... I wear riding shorts and on longer rides a wicking shirt of some sort, but on my commute you'll see me in shorts and a t shirt. With a helmet.Prollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361235576008388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-41478193337340963172007-08-22T11:24:00.000-04:002007-08-22T11:24:00.000-04:00I hate all you freegan pathaletesexcept for 'anon ...I hate all you freegan pathaletes<BR/><BR/>except for 'anon 11:45' you sound cute<BR/><BR/>"yeah i'm 20 something, i'm one of those girls that works in a sandwich shop, i have both naked"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-30987152097696227282007-08-22T11:20:00.000-04:002007-08-22T11:20:00.000-04:00I ride a road bike and am ignorant of the whole fi...I ride a road bike and am ignorant of the whole fixed gear world. What's the deal with these top tube pads anyway? Do you really slam your balls on the top tube so often as to warrant one of these goofy looking pads?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-77522705842562580832007-08-22T11:05:00.000-04:002007-08-22T11:05:00.000-04:00Iron Fish,Good points all. Sure, you're not going...Iron Fish,<BR/><BR/>Good points all. Sure, you're not going to ride your townie in lycra in the same way you're not going to get bundled up to take the trash out. Also, I did wonder if the CL post was a fake. It certainly could be, but I still think it's real. The manufacturer he cites does in fact make custom top tube pads. (http://www.under-the-weather.ca/accessories/)<BR/><BR/>--BSNYCBikeSnobNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256142855437740163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-76848119563440407872007-08-22T09:14:00.000-04:002007-08-22T09:14:00.000-04:00Hey BSNYC,Do you think possibly, perhaps, there is...Hey BSNYC,<BR/><BR/>Do you think possibly, perhaps, there is an outside chance that the stolen top tube ad on cl was a fake? I mean, black outside, grey inside? Custom?! My bet is on a dedicated reader of this very blog. (full disclosure: it was not me or any persons known to me.) If it is real, it is truly pathetic that someone would a. have a custom tt protector; b. think the person who took it would return it to his little skate shop pals, and c. I really just don't know what to say. Maybe this guy has been licking the paint off his bicycle. Sheesh.<BR/><BR/>As for what people wear on their bikes, it's really all about tribes and customs, isn't it? Of course you don't need to dress in any particular way to ride any particular bike. But you know, bag pipers and Eric Clapton wear skirts, glam rockers wear spandex, Swiss yodellers wear those lederhosen things. I will say I'd feel kinda dumb riding my shopping around town bike in full lycra.<BR/><BR/>I once bought a pair of cycling socks with the ying/yang symbol on the ankles and on the sole was Rodney King's famous plea, "Can't we all just get along?" Thankfully for bikesnob and his faithful readers, the answer is no, Rodney, we can't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4213956784784062266.post-50118580782490681092007-08-22T06:36:00.000-04:002007-08-22T06:36:00.000-04:004:06 - really. You sound like a BikeTrailGuy, a P...4:06 - really. You sound like a BikeTrailGuy, a Pathlete. I'm a fat bastard who does okay in crits & cross, and I think commuters who want to have an impromptu race are a bunch of dickweeds. They interfere with my training. One of the tougher parts about racing and actually training to race is disciplining yourself to go slow when you're not going very hard. The vast majority of training time is spent in zone 1/2 - fairly easy spinning. In a build phase I may ride 15 hours a week, and do no more than 90 minutes tempo, and 30 minutes or maybe an hour of actual hard effort, comprised of 15 second sprints on long rest, 30 second and 1 minute efforts on long rest, or sometimes 10 minute big ring intervals. That means I spend 13 hours riding at 16-19 MPH average. Having guys ride by and huffing at me, or doing a fist pump when they beat me up this hill I'm spinning up on the way home is a friggin' irritant, nobody likes being goaded especially when they know they could do something about it. The worst are the guys who race to get ahead of me then can't keep up their stellar 18 MPH pace and slow down. They force me to slow way down, or when I pass them they struggle to pass me back, and then they slow down again. This forces me to either ride a lot slower, or to ride a lot faster to get away from them. There are few things more irritating than a commuter who thinks we should be having a street race. Yes, it's a sore spot - I can't stand people who pull that crap. It screws up my training when all I really want is to get my ride on. <BR/><BR/>If you think you're such hot shit you should pay $80 for your USCF license next year and let's see how fast you make it to Cat 2. If we're all a bunch of posers it should be quite easy for you.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10461836999036966262noreply@blogger.com