Wednesday, June 11, 2008

Hijacked: Technical Q&A with Lennard Zinn RTMS


I have a lot of cycling-related fantasies: establishing our own nation with our own cheese; arranging a bike joust between Barack Obama on his dork-cycle and outspoken eco-nerd Ed Begley, Jr.; and of course the complete eradication of the pie plate. Unfortunately, all of these scenarios are pretty unlikely. But there is one fantasy of mine that's a bit more attainable, and that's taking over VeloNews tech guru Lennard Zinn's Q&A column. Sure, VeloNews isn't going to let me do that anytime soon, and I missed my best chance to steal his identity by not recovering his stolen laptop, but thanks to the internet (the ultimate tool for self-delusion) I can at least steal the questions from an already-published column and answer them myself on my own blog. So here goes:

Techical Q&A with Lennard Zinn Rip Torn’s Mug Shot – Time to replace?

Mix-and-match

Dear Lennard,

At one time I read in your column that you can change Campy 9-speed ergo shifters to 10-speed. Is this true and what are the details?

Guido

Dear Guido,

Sorry, Lennard stepped out for some Pringles, but allow me to help. My answer to your question is three-fold.

1) Yes, you can do it as long as they're not the old ones with the vestigial pointy tops. (Campy ergo levers used to have vestigial pointy tops before they realized people might actually want to put their hands there.)

2) The details are you stick a new shifty thingy in them.

3) I'm honestly surprised that in 2008 people a) still have 9 speed, and b) if they do would bother to “upgrade” to 10 speed at this point. Even though all you need to do is stick a new shifty thingy in them, you might as well throw them out because Campy is going to 11. This is a tremendous leap forward. It means: 1) you can have an 11-21 straight block; 2) those neutral wheel service techs will once again have to work for a living since not everything’s 10 speed anymore; 3) you can have a 20-30 straight block (in the event they decide to make one for some crazy reason). Also, best of all, it means that the Spinal Tap "it goes to 11" reference may finally be beaten completely to death, which would be great, because I'd love never to hear it in relation to road component groups again.

I should warn you, though—if you do go for the new 11 speed Campagnolo, it’s ugly. Really ugly. It looks like the bastard child of a Shimano STI and a Mektronic lever. Although if you’ve already got one of those stupid Pinarello Onda forks then the new Campy is a must-have if you want to retain that melting theme throughout the front end of the bike.

--RTMS


When to replace?

Dear Lennard,

I have two Shimano 10-speed groups: Dura-Ace and Ultegra. I've put about 3000 miles on both groups (I ride my Ultegra bike a lot more in crits and early season training), but I've noticed, aside from the shifting, that my pedal stroke seems "easier" and more supple with Dura-Ace.

So, I have a few questions for you:

1) What's the average lifespan of Dura-Ace and Ultegra bottom brackets? Do I need a new Ultegra bottom bracket?

2) Is there any easy way to determine when they're about to go (other than mileage)?

3) With the old spindled bottom brackets you could rotate the bearings by hand and "feel" the drag/crunch/friction indicative of a need for a new bottom bracket. Now, it's a guess based on "ease" of spinning the cranks, and that can be dependent upon bearing load?

4) Do you know the bearing-loading values for Dura-Ace and Ultegra bottom brackets (would I use a torque wrench for that)?

5) Have you heard of or had experience with the bearing overhaul kit, which I believe is made by Phil Wood?

Mark

Hi, Mark. Sorry, Lennard stepped out to take his ferret for a walk, but allow me to help. The reason your Dura-Ace feels "easier" and "more supple" is that you paid more for it. I always find it puzzling that people reserve Dura-Ace for the fair weather race bike, and use Ultegra or lower for the rain bike or beater bike. Since Dura-Ace is the best, wouldn't that be the logical choice for adverse conditions, since theoretically it should hold up better? I mean, it has "Dura" in the name. At any rate, to answer your questions:

1) You can kill a bottom bracket in about 35 seconds by installing it improperly, yet it can live nearly forever if you rarely use it. (Barring nuclear catastrophe, asteroids colliding with the Earth, Fixed-Gear Apocalypse, and so on.) So by averaging 35 seconds and 100,000 years, I come up with 1,567,800,000,018 seconds. So that is the average lifespan of your bottom bracket. Do you need a new Ultegra unit? If you're somewhere inside that window, maybe.

2) Get two mixing bowls. Fill one with plain yogurt, and the other with macaroni and cheese at room temperature. Place a wooden spoon in each. Then, remove the chain from your front chainrings and spin your crank. Next, stir each bowl with the wooden spoon. Which bowl does your crank most feel like when turned? If it feels more like the bowl filled with plain yogurt, then it's got anywhere from tens to trillions of seconds to go. If it feels more like the bowl of mac and cheese, consider replacement.

3) It can. Really, are you honestly this obsessed with bottom brackets?

4) No, I don't. Who cares? Yes, you would use a torque wrench for that--if you're a gigantic dork. I mean, using a torque wrench on the actual cups is one thing, but for the preload?!? Do you use a torque wrench to turn off your faucet, or to flush your toilet, or to replace the lid on your half-drunk Snapple? Take a risk!!! How wrong can you really go here?

5) Are you really obsessed to the point that you're ready to give money to Phil Wood? Patronizing Phil Wood is like going to an expensive therapist--this is an entire company based on assuaging the anal and neurotic. Take any normal, properly-funcioning component, like your bottom bracket. Even though it's perfectly fine and more or less incapable of failing catastrophically, you're checking it every day, writing letters to VeloNews, and waiting for it to fail like some kind of nutcase hunkering in a basement bracing yourself for a hurricane that's never going to come. Well, thank goodness for you there's Phil. What they do is make essentially the same exact thing you already have but charge you about three times as much for it because it has a special oil in it. (Or, they make some kind of "overhaul kit" for what you already have that essentially replaces the internals with the same thing. It’s like getting a heart transplant you don’t need.) That way, you can relax, knowing you paid for the "best." So, yeah, if you can't sleep at night due to the fear that your bottom bracket might explode in the night and take you with it, by all means, buy the Phil Wood thing.

--RTMS


Regarding rolling resistance of clinchers v. tubulars discussed in a prior column:

Dear Lennard,

I suggest you look at biketechreview.com. The range of the Coefficient of Rolling Resistance (Crr) for tires in the test, performed on a PVC drum, are similar to the range of Crr for clinchers and tubulars in the Chester Kyle study, published in Bicycling, May 1985. The Kyle study was done on smooth asphalt and low speed trike.

It is obvious that the steel drum used in the Tour magazine study magnifies the differences between tires, the question is how much. Tubulars do not perform well on a steel drum because of the small contact area and the resultant squirming or glue compression. The difference on the road is minimal. In a test done by Triathlon magazine (September 2006), the same six sewups, eight clinchers were tested on both a concrete indoor track and a steel drum. After adjusting for tire load and speed, the range of variability (defined in watts) for the six sewups on the drum was 2.24 times higher (my calculation) than on concrete. For clinchers the range of variability was 1.76 times.

Bottom Line: "Rolling resistance is very close on smooth road surfaces between clinchers and tubulars. Individual tires of either group may have better or worse rolling resistance".

Terry

Hi, Terry. Sorry, Lennard stepped out to enter a Peter Coyote look-alike contest, but allow me to help. Firstly, I couldn’t and didn’t read that. Secondly, are you still seriously confused about the difference between tubulars and clinchers? One involves glue, one doesn't. Take your pick. The real difference is in the rims, not the tires. Tubular rims and clincher rims have different weight and performance characteristics. If you want to use tubular rims, use tubular tires. If you want to use clincher rims, use clincher tires. If you're unsure, use one tubular wheel and one clincher wheel. That way you can't lose. Come on, do you decide between a sports car and a speedboat by comparing the ergonomics of the steering wheels?

--RTMS

Regarding orthotic construction from a previous column, I received some feedback about different approaches:

Dear Lennard,

I am a podiatrist and the pedorthotist's response to proper casting technique for custom orthotics is off-base.

Semi-weight-bearing casting defeats the purpose of creating a properly supportive device. It's difficult to be consistent between patients when utilizing this technique and one should simply use a heat moldable device if this approach is to be used. Yes, the foot compresses and the "arch" lowers and if done properly a non-weight-bearing casting simulating weight bearing by slight loading of the foot in its "neutral" position is the correct way to cast a patient.

Instructions can be given for "posting" of the devices if additional correction is needed. The foam impressions are a quick and easy way to cast but simply does not capture the true simulated semi-weight-bearing that is needed. Also, full-length devices may be appropriate, but if room is needed in the toe box area, a 3/4 cut top cover can be applied to the device without sacrificing any support supplied by the orthotic.

S.C. MurphyDPM

Dear Lennard,

Thanks for addressing the orthotic question. I enjoyed the article and comments by Russel Bollig.

No doubt he has the experience and athletes to stand behind what he says. Because I'm a cyclist and a health provider, I can appreciate the value of orthotics in a cycling shoe. You might say it's the reason I'm still training and racing.

I would, however, like to add a couple comments. I've been making cycling orthotics for a few years now using a neutral, non-weight-bearing cast, which has benefits worthy of mention. In my experience it's not so much about the arch as much as it is a combination of addressing the forefoot/rearfoot relationship, as well as the arch.

The craftsmanship you mentioned required to modify a positive cast's arch to address soft-tissue displacement really isn't a difficult task for an experienced tech, as it involves much less guesswork. I don't have any issues with this step, especially because there are so many benefits to a non-weight-bearing cast.

Because the forefoot/rearfoot is better captured with non-weight-bearing casts, it's much easier to post the forefoot accordingly for the patient's needs. Proper forefoot alignment is what in my experience really makes the difference in proper knee alignment while pedaling, also the basis for Paul Swift's BigMeat wedges.

For a more complete article, please read a recent article I wrote.

Dr. Rich Cimadoro

Sorry, Lennard stepped out to claim his third-place prize in a Peter Coyote look-alike contest. (A bucket of wings from KFC if you're wondering.) Orthotics aside, since you're both doctors, can I ask you guys a question? Just testing out a personal theory. Does either one of you ride a Serotta? I'm guessing at least one of you does. Am I right? Also, theoretically, can the casting techniques you describe be employed in penis gourd fabrication? I was intrigued by the reference to "Big Meat."

--RTMS

105 comments:

FBIII said...

BOONIUM! justsayno

FBIII said...

BOONIUM!
justsayno

Anonymous said...

podium?

Daddo said...

Hincapie!

Anonymous said...

daddo.one - Doest that mean mechanical?

BikeSnobNYC said...

techb3,

When referring to Boonen the correct word is "Blow-dium."

--BSNYC

Anonymous said...

as for Lennard Zinn...

"I know him pretty well and he's a solid dude and has been riding bikes for a long, long time for whatever thats worth."

FBIII said...

I stand injested.

douchely yours,
HW

Anonymous said...

Top 10!!!

Daddo said...

it means loser or "non-winner" - take your pick

Daddo said...

and the award for now we're getting just a little tired of this nonsense goes to prolly!

Anonymous said...

He got a stage yesterday, although he was probably confused and trying to make his way up to the team car to get a wheel change, winning the stage by accident.

Anonymous said...

A 20-31 straight block would require a 12-speed. This is further evidence that Snob is not a mathematician. A setup like that would require an ugly long cage derailleur too, so I wouldn't go there...and I even ride a Schwinn Super Sport made out of 853 Tig-welded by a trained chimpanzee.

Anonymous said...

Is Dr. Rich Cimadoro the weary Portuguese friend of S.C. Murphy DPM????



A

Anonymous said...

Top Zinn!

Anonymous said...

say what you will about phil wood, but the man is the i-genius of the cycling world.

"tell you what, i will sell you the thinnest notebook in the WORLD for a ridiculous price, AND you will have to buy an external optical drive for a pretty high price as well just to read the cd with the operating software IN CASE something goes wrong when you do a software update (and we find you have illegal 3rd party software when we scan your drive AT HOME)."

-steve jobs

"tell you what, im gonna sell you this sealed bottom bracket with my logo embossed on it, BUT you will need to order the PHIL WOOD bearing cups (left AND right sold separately), the SPECIAL PHIL WOOD bearing sauce AND locktite, a PHIL WOOD chamois AND of course the Phil WOOD TOOL (loosening AND tightening tool sold separately).

-phil wood

both after the sale, "Another sodomized customer."

smartypants said...

I would have podium'd, but I was too busy sleeping by a fents.

Anonymous said...

Dear Lenny,

Being a typical roadie, I obsess about bottom bracket longevity. I want to know which BB30 ceramic bottom bracket will last forever, because after the alpacalypse, the world will likely only comprise of cockroaches and ceramic BB30 bottom brackets. Please hurry with your response as I've had this $12,000 bike now for a month and I need to sell it for something with slightly larger head tube bearings.

Strayhorn said...

I recall that Zinn answered that first question (about upgrading Campy levers) with a plug for his book.

I responded to that the same as Ralphie did in "Christmas Story": "A crummy commercial! Son of a bitch!"

So, anyway, RTMS needs to write a book so he can plug it in his column.

Daddo said...

"2) Get two mixing bowls. Fill one with plain yogurt, and the other with macaroni and cheese at room temperature. Place a wooden spoon in each. Then, remove the chain from your front chainrings and spin your crank. Next, stir each bowl with the wooden spoon. Which bowl does your crank most feel like when turned? If it feels more like the bowl filled with plain yogurt, then it's got anywhere from tens to trillions of seconds to go. If it feels more like the bowl of mac and cheese, consider replacement."

...I just passed chocolate pudding through my nose

Anonymous said...

Dear Commie,

I suggest you get your answer in my new book, "Zinn and the Art of Masturbation". It sounds like to me you need 190mm crank arms. You should check out the one's on my website in titanium that haven't been available in two years, and still won't be.

Lenny

Anonymous said...

"tell you what, I'm getting SOOOOO SICK of not ruling the ENTIRE world, that now I spend my FREE TIME going around and posting on interweb blogs about BIKES with subliminal knocks against my SUCCESSFUL competitors. I don't know what the POINT of this comment is, other than to say that I'm still PISSED that I was featured on the VH1 special "40 worst celebrity mugshots" for the time I was pulled over in my new Porsche back in the 80's. Oh, and I am unable to control the VOLUME OF MY VOICE."

-billy g. aka anon 1:38

Anonymous said...

Dear Lenny,

Am I crazy or does my new integrated seat post bike ride better without the saddle?

Dick


Dear Dick,

You're not crazy, you're gay. I recommend using baby powder.

Lenny

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Hincapie has no history of winning anything...
"
From the results of the 1987 National Capital Open,

Junior 12-13
1. George Hincapie
...."

Anonymous said...

Your answer to Terry made more sense than Lennard Zinn's did.

Anonymous said...

Strayhorn -
First of all, congratulations on your retirement from the NFL as a champion.
Second, good idea on the book thing. I would love a BSNYC coffee table book featuring the best/worse fixed gear gallery entries and the Snob's comments regarding the bikes and their owners. It'd sell like hotcakes.

Unknown said...

Hey Bike Snob,
Hey are you interested in writing for missingsaddle.com
If so email me at curtisz@missingsaddle.com

Daddo said...

we're all just contemplating a smarmy answer for curtis, aren't we?

Anonymous said...

How'd you know?

Anonymous said...

here's a joke what break ice??

Anonymous said...

Dear RTMS,

My shoulder has a mac and cheese feel to it after a recent crash. Does Phil Wood offer a replacement or overhaul kit? Maybe a special salve?? BTW, do you know the preload torque for my rotator cuff?



A

Anonymous said...

Dr. Rich rides a Giant TCR Advanced . . . pretty fast too.

BikeSnobNYC said...

BikeSnob,

Thanks! Stupid math...

--BSNYC

veloben said...

Yes, and it should include a chocolate pudding reference...

tuppercole said...

Mark,
3000 miles? Run, do not ride, to the nearest bike shop and get replacement bottom brackets right now. Ceramic if available. I recommend replacing bottom brackets every 2000 miles. I also replace brake cables every 1500, derailleur cables every 1000, chains after 250, and cleats every ride.

Better safe than sorry.

PS
Start saving for that drivetrain, 5000 miles is right around the corner.

BikeSnobNYC said...

I meant "BikeSlob..."

--BSNYC

Jim N said...

Are podiatrists really doctors? If not, do they ride the less-educated version of Serotta, and what would that be?

Anonymous said...

ok,
Off-topic, but the author of this Blog is "Bike Snob" right?
Where is the "RTMS" coming from?
I now await several good-natured cutting remarks that may or may not contain the answer.


GO!

FBIII said...

rip torn mug shot...even i know that.

Anonymous said...

SD said... I recommend replacing bottom brackets every 2000 miles. I also replace brake cables every 1500, derailleur cables every 1000, chains after 250, and cleats every ride.


Oh, you must ride Campy, with Shimano, it's new BB every 550 miles (which works out to the exact timing that a new BB standard is introduced), new brake cables every ride, three chains during the ride, and cleats every six minutes, 4 minutes in the summer, as they are often made of chocolate.

Better Safe than sorry

bikesgonewild said...

...anon 2:17pm...

..."good naturedcutting remarks..."???...men (& women) have died for less on this site...reputations ruined forever...

Anonymous said...

daddo.one said...
...I just passed chocolate pudding through my nose


Me too!, ...and the weird thing is, I wasn't even eating chocolate pudding at the time.

Anonymous said...

snob, 2 corrections/retractions in one day? i've warned you in the past of the danger you face when prodding the zinn. now look at the mess your in. ps. have you made progress on landing letle viride a gig with the tall bike & camera set-up with vs? pls hurry.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Reading the last three question gave me a headache.

Anonymous said...

RTMS,

This is your final warning. Even mere joking about the satanic ceramic and carbon fiber apostasy in which Zinn traffics shall earn you eternal damnation at my hand, for I am the vengeful sword arm of Tullio Campagnolo. Lo, verily, shall you be condemned to work in the Pacific Bikes, er, I mean Canondale Factory, producing American Made, er, I mean American Assembled, monstrosities melding steel, ceramic, carbon fiber, Aluminium and blended puppies into unnatural hybrid bicycles for sale at price points one to two tiers above comparable competitors' bikes. Never shall you taste the bagels of "Casual Friday" at the Specialized headquarters!

So is it written, so shall it be done!

Why, in my day...

/s
Jobst Brandt's Pimp Hand

Anonymous said...

What on earth does "/s" mean?

Anonymous said...

it is a reference to the angle of his pimp hand when it slaps a bitch. /'s=multiple slaps

Anonymous said...

Commiecanuck: uh, that wasn't chocolate pudding.

veloben said...

anon 2:17

RTMS is spelled out for you in the post, the rest is in the archives go and study it.

Anonymous said...

Snob, i am insulted that you insulted Phil Woods. For the love of Christ, he makes a lubricant with the word TENACIOUS in the name. What do you do that is tenacious, nancy boy? Oh, and by the way, expect to hear from Tenacious D's lawyers about this.

Cameron said...

The fake prolly guy cracks me up every time.

Anonymous said...

as for Phil Wood...

"I know him pretty well and he's a solid dude and has been riding bikes for a long, long time for whatever thats worth."

Anonymous said...

cameron,

you've sure got some "crappy" 10 speeds! (no offense)

Anonymous said...

Tenacious is so old school. Now, thanks to Campy, the word is officially "elevenacious."

Anonymous said...

Honestly, you can learn a lot from Lennard Zinn.

For instance, I had no idea he liked Pringles.

Anonymous said...

I have ELEVENacious bikes.

Cameron said...

anon 2:59

Thanks for noticing. The best part about old crappy 10-speeds is that you never have to worry about continually changing BB standards---well and all the big chrome pie plates are nice too.

FBIII said...

fuck a bottom bracket. i tighten mine until the bearings are seized. it forces me to POWER through it. By the end of a ride i have a finely tuned machine.

Anonymous said...

RTMS,

They are apologizing.

RTMS Apology

Anonymous said...

boy those shifters ARE ugly....

FBIII said...

i also like skidding for no reason and trying to barspin drop bars under neath the BQE. I get about halfway every time.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is on the back of Obama's bike? Is that like the king of all rear fenders or something? Looks like a giant tube or eel or something...

Anonymous said...

This post gave me a Phil Woodie.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is on the back of Obama's bike?

It's one of those trail a bike things. I think, one of his secret service agents is riding it.

vacuumrunamok said...

RTMS,

Now I'm just confused. I thought the Fixed Gear Apocalypse would imbue all non-fixed bottom brackets with omnipotent powers.

Please clarify.

Also, I really had no idea there that many people reading Velo News who need to be cock(crotch)punched.

Barbarosa said...

re: RTMS apology,

''Monzel said the ad was meant to depict a generic criminal and discuss his efforts to "get sexual predators off the streets." He said the ad wasn't meant to have anything to do with the 77-year-old actor.''

Wow! Rip was certainly Torn a new one.

Anonymous said...

Boonen can always ride for Rock Racing.

Barbarosa said...

re RTMS apology,

I'm sure City Councilman Chris Monzel would have been reelected with a landslide had he used this photo instead.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Johan will take him back.

Anonymous said...

dopepedaler said...

This post gave me a Phil Woodie.


It gave me an eleverection*.

*Wikipedia: eleverection. noun. sexual excitement from getting one more than ten of anything, whether useful of not.

FBIII said...

it gave me a velosectomy.

Anonymous said...

everyone deserves a kick in the crotch

LK said...

Steel drums? I hate steel drums.

Please leave them in the subway or in those Calypso Islands.

Eeesh. What dorks.

Anonymous said...

Snob rides fixie.

veloben said...

The trail-a-bike thingy is the new VP selection protocol. If a potential Veep can bring them self to sit on it and peddal they have publicly demonstrate an ability to follw the Democratic presumptive nominee's lead from a anterior/submissive position. They pass the first cut.

If they do not point out that cycling on sidewalks is prohibited for adult riders they have demonstrated a required ability to ignore the law in furtherance of their's and the "captain's" agenda. Plus one point.

If they publicly note the under inflated tire they are cut from consideration.

Anonymous said...

Deepthroat --

Old news.

P.S. -- please gargle.

Anonymous said...

as for DEEPTHROAT...

"I know him pretty well and he's a solid dude and has been swallowing for a long, long time for whatever thats worth."

FBIII said...

Oh my!!! I love to get wasted on Friday afternoon and read this blog.

Daniel said...

Oh my!!! I love to get wasted on Friday afternoon and read this blog.

Don't sell yourself short: you don't just read this blog, you also produce a surprising number of comments, each more insightful (and relevant) than the dozens before it.

FBIII said...

the point is, i DO like this blog...and it's wednesday.

Anonymous said...

This model use the all-permanent-magnetism and all-suspending technology, which can increase 20% continuously driving mileage for electric motor car. The maturation and development of the technology will establish consistent foundation for the supreme objective of the development of electric motor car---flywheel energy storage technology. It means the electric vehicle era has truly occurred.

smartypants said...

As for anon 5:32:

"I know him pretty well and he's a solid dude and has been cycling for a long, long time for whatever thats worth."

FBIII said...

re: daniel

cum again?

Daniel said...


Yes, Cum Again
, the extraordinarily unpopular online journal of obscene toilet stall art.

Anonymous said...

wait I didn't even realize that was a fake prolly. Was it a fake one yesterday... has it always been a fake prolly?!? Where oh where has prolly and his fixed gear freestyling crew gone?

Trek Rider said...

I work in a crappy cube doing tech support and I read this everyday! You boys crack me up. Snob, bravo for such superlative writing and wow! what style. And as for bottom brackets, who cares. Jam em' in, crank em down and pedal your ass off till the grinding goes away and there you have it, a perfect install!!!!

Anonymous said...

Tommke looks to be fast today. Not sure if it is due to a combination of his clincher/ tubular tyres, a phenonemal new ceramic bottom bracket or....
Wait on, he seems a little agitated since the last feed station and is whipping his nose a lot but since then he is spinning a very high cadenece and we will all sit back for the next five hours and see if he can hold that pace.

bikesgonewild said...

...this is so unfair...i just have a hard time posting when the blog starts w/ a picture i see in the mirror every day...

...there is nothing velvet jackets & lederhosen can do for that...

...ah, mi vida miseria...

Anonymous said...

Leave the light off, it works wonders in both the bathroom and bedroom... just suggestin

Anonymous said...

The Remy Martin might help too.

Daisies & other pretty things do the trick for me.

Anonymous said...

The lights off would be a last resort.

Anonymous said...

Hey BGW slip over to the Distrazioni quotidiano, bottom right. Could be Frills as she said she was a pink lady

Anonymous said...

I never got my socks.

Anonymous said...

According to Alexa BSNYC gets 1/3 of the hits as the entire velo news site. I doubt their Q&A section gets 1/3 of their traffic. Therefore i think we can assume that BSNYC gets more hits than Zinn.

Anonymous said...

Velonews sucks

Anonymous said...

Velonews is all about selling one kind of plastic or another. Well, comically priced inappropriate bearings, too.

-p said...

That campy lever hood looks like a scrotum.

Anonymous said...

Actually...my scrotum looks way better than the new Campagnolo Tufnel

Jonathan said...

100.

and i'm with cameron: that fake prolly has been making my day for most of this week.

Bluenoser said...

101

-B

Old Fonzie said...

Maybe you can answer this question RTMS, since Leonard didn't touch on it even though he was covering the tech aspects of the Giro.

Why did David Millar's chain break and was he running a standard SRAM 10 speed chain or a Dura Ace like a lot of teams that run SRAM?

Anonymous said...

who cares.

aaaaayyyyyyy!!!

Anonymous said...

For weeks I've been wondering what RTMS meant. Thankyou for spelling out the acronym. Now, can someone please fill me in on who Rip Torn is? I've heard the name before, but I'm still clueless.

Daniel said...

For weeks I've been wondering what RTMS meant. Thankyou for spelling out the acronym. Now, can someone please fill me in on who Rip Torn is? I've heard the name before, but I'm still clueless.

Rip Torn (1947 - ) invented the internet search engine Google. He theorized that when people needed to find information on the internet, they would take advantage of a simple, easy-to-use interface--for example, rather than typing what you typed above (and hoping for a straightforward response), a Google user could simply type "rip torn" into its frontpage (www.google.com) and receive an answer immediately. Of course, only time will tell if this technology will be successful.

JP said...

hey, I love my Onda fork